Is it just me or is the score editor just really badly implemented within N14? For instance I can’t write the symbols for augmented chords, 9ths and many others, the cut and paste features are a joke, it randomly moves things around and loses notes all the time. Impossible to remove the tempo indicator or to rename of the staff to the instrument you are scoring for as for bar numbers.. Do other people find it hard to use? What’s your experience?
Thanks, this doesn’t work for me. I have just spent hours on writing a score and it has completely lost what I wrote. It is totally unreliable, completely unprofessional tool for people still using crayons. It has zero retention of what you put into a score. Lost all the chords, the bassline just left a couple of bits and pieces. HOw this passed whatever QC Steinberg has in place I do not know. Same happened with Spectralayers, it’s still flaky and clunky but at least it doesn’t destroy sessions as it did before. Seems we wil have to wait a year or two before we can rely upon it.
Every time I leave a channel for which I have made a score it changes the clef to the Bass clef from the treble clef.
Hi digitalmixes. It’s a bit hard to dissect the various questions from your earlier posts. Could you clarify further what it is you’re seeing? Please provide exact steps of what you’re doing, and what you’re expecting to see at each step. The Score Editor has changed significantly, I’m sure we can clarify several things just by going through the topics individually. It’d be important to see context, ideally in the form of a project file.
Thanks for responding. Let’s start with a basic requirement. Cut and paste. Available in every other program I use it doesn’t work in the score editor. I use the menu commands to copy and paste and although it indicates it has worked it doesn’t. I am unable to copy and paste repetitive passages. I have restarted the program and machine but it makes no difference. How can I copy a passage and the choose where to paste it. Let’s solve this problem and then we can look at other issues.
You copy by pressing CTRL/cmd+C with selected objects.
The paste location is determined by the position of the project cursor, in the track that is currently “active”. You can activate tracks by selecting them in the left zone track list, just below the list of layouts.
We are certainly considering whether paste should just work at the position of a selection, since that’s a bit more apparent in score. The current implementation follows key editor conventions for consistency.
Well that was exciting to discover this…I certainly would not have thought this to be the obvious way of doing things. Would be good to connect the cursor with the score position. The next thing that is an issue is why might a simple score change with no intervention from me? I leave the channel I am working on and go to another channel come back and it has changed.
The score should obviously not change without intervention from you. That’s the point where a detailed description would be helpful. What does “leave the channel” mean specifically here?
He might be referring to the settings window. When you change something there, you see the changes in the background, but when you close the window, everything disappears. The reason is that you have to click OK at the bottom, not Close at the top. It’s often these little things that trip you up, even when you know about them.
Thanks for this feedback. I am scooting from one part to another and am not particularly closing it from the bottom by clicking OK. It seems every time I make changes they disappear maybe this is the reason
I’m about to start a new project, let me update you on how I get on.
Many thanks
Maybe I’m a bit stupid but I cannot see where you click OK at the bottom. There literally is no button that I can see. Please advise. I am trying to writ the chord E minor augmented which would normally be written as Em+ or EmAug but neither of these two variations is available. I write Em+ and it turns into E using the chord symbols under the text menu.
This might be due to this chord spelling, a minor triad with a raised 5th, not really existing in music theory – and therefore dorico is not able to spell it.
Here’s a discussion about it on Reddit: Reddit - The heart of the internet
And another interesting thread there:
https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/127519/what-chord-do-we-get-by-raising-the-fifth-of-a-minor-triad#:~:text=Raising%20the%20fifth%20of%20a%20major%20triad%20gives%20an%20augmented,inversion%20A♭%20major%20triad.
In searching I found it interesting that the AI result at the top of Google search got it wrong:
A minor triad with a raised fifth is
an augmented chord. It contains a root, a major third, and a raised or augmented fifth
But you have not revealed what exact editing window you are in, since this is different than what you were speaking of in regard to the score editor settings window
@Digitalmixes I’m still not sure what it is you’re even doing. You’re obviously frustrated with several different aspects. We’d love to help you out with this. Please lets discuss one problem at a time, go through it step by step. Avoid us guessing by sharing the project, or at least screenshots.
As for your chord issues: the chords in the Score Editor follow the default engraving options that Dorico uses. Those aren’t currently exposed in the Cubase Score Editor, and hence you won’t be able to influence them. They will look different to what you see in the chord track. Improving that aspect is on our roadmap.
