Several words (lyrics) for one note! And system spacing

Dear Daniel!

Bravo! The program looks absolutely amazing.

I have a question concerning putting several words under one note as lyrics, like psamoldy in church music, is that possible to do it? I tried multiple keyboard combinations, but I didn’t succeed. The only “solutions” I got are when there is absolutely no space between words (original sentence is: “Jésus est venu chez les siens”) with exemple01, and when I add an underscore between words with exemple02.

I have another question: is there any possibility to make the very last system longer reaching the right side of the page instead of stopping right in the middle, like in exemple03?

Thanks for your answers
Val



I’m glad you’re enjoying Dorico so far!

To insert multiple lyrics under a single note, use the shortcut Shift+Alt+Space to insert a space without advancing to the next position.

To make the last system reach the final barline, go to the Note Spacing page of Setup > Layout Options and switch off ‘Only justify final system in flow…’.

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Super Daniel, thanks a lot for those tips!

For me that comes from Cubase 5 in terms of editing music… this is great and I look forward to discovering Dorico even more!

Val

Daniel

Very useful answer to OP’s question. But isn’t the sequence for justifying the final system: Setup>Layout options, to get to the note spacing dialogue, in Setup mode, rather than Write mode? Or is there more than one route into this in addition to the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+shift+L)?

Michael

Dear Michael,

You’re right, it’s the Setup menu in Setup mode to get to the Layout options :wink: Every user will choose the most convenient one (for me, cmd+shift+L is the best way, since I can access it from any mode)

You’re quite right that the Layout Options dialog is of course in the Setup menu, not the Write menu, but the key command does indeed work from any mode. I’ve corrected the menu path in my original reply.

You can set the alignment of the selected syllable(s) in the Properties panel.

How do you format a text document so that cutting/pasting in multiple words will only be assigned to one note?

All you need to do is hyphenate the multi-syllable words. I do it manually, checking the dictionary if I’m unsure. Some online tools have been mentioned as well.

I’m talking about putting this entire string of words under one note. Nothing to do with hyphenation. I’d like to do it in a text editor then paste it in. I can’t figure out what character I need between?the?words.

Alt shift spaces, not regular spaces. (Ie-non-breaking spaces)

In a text file, alt-shift-spaces don’t work. I’m talking about an External text file where I can copy from then paste into Dorico. Since I can search/replace spaces in a selection in my text editor it would be quicker than typing in all those alt-shift space in the lyrics in Dorico.

Try a non-breaking space (U+00A0).

Or enter a lyric, then use the edit single lyric dialog and Copy and Paste the text there.

I knew there had to be something. With all the plainchant I have to do, search and replace spaces in a selection with the non-breaking space will be faster than all those alt-shift-spaces. Thanks.

I use this feature so much, I actually remapped one of the physical keys on my keyboard to do non-breaking spaces automatically. It helps a lot.

(I’m actually fortunate to have a split-keyboard—ie-one that is literally in two pieces you can place shoulder-width apart—which means I actually have two spacebars. Right spacebar is normal space, and left space bar is non-breaking. It’s wonderful.)

Somebody hand me a saw. :carpentry_saw:

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Worth every penny (for ergo and programmability reasons).

How do I enter this as a lyric?
Where are non-breaking spaces covered in the manual?

Alt-Shift-Space in the Lyrics popup.

I found this mentioned here in the User Guide (Procedure step 4). But not by searching! @Lillie_Harris Searching “non-breaking space” yielded nothing.