Shared Layers still do not work properly

I’ve just created a shared layer. Pasted it several times in different parts, deleted them all with the undo function. At the end there was no more shared layer and I even deleted the original layer.

VST Live however changed how the layer sounded (even I didn’t change anything inside the instrument or the layer settings) and it still let me play the layer even everything was deleted…

Couldn’t it become possible that I create a layer that can be used throughout the song without the need for duplicating or sharing it for every part?

To me it would be way more convenient to only create a layer once that I want to use throughout the whole song instead of having to duplicate or share them…

The better scenario would be to me that VST Live would only remember if I change any setting on the layer and recall them with a part change instead of having to copy and paste and share the layer for every part that I have created…

Sharing and duplicating to me seems to cause many problems and it’s lots of additional work to copy and sharepaste the layer every single time again for a new part over and over

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Or maybe if there really cannot be another possibility of inserting layers into already existing parts… could there be a way that I only have to add a layer once and I can tell VST Live that this layer shall automatically be duplicated for every new part that I create?

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Layers/save default Layer

Yes, but I still have to insert the layer again and again for each part that I create… And I don’t want it to be default. I want it to be song-specific.

I just figure out that there is still this bug that if I change anything on the layer surface of a shared layer (here:


) VST Live won’t correctly apply what I am changing…

Like if I change something about the volume in another part or the pan or transpose VST Live sometimes will correctly play what I have set and sometimes it doesn’t. To me it seems there’s still a lot of improvement needed for shared layers. They don’t really work well as they are designed currenty.

And for even worse I just figure out that when I save a song and load it inside a new project my previously defined shared layers all become unshared, regular layers, what I didn’t intend either. This way the plugins become loaded several times what is causing CPU usage here…

Preferences/Layers/No default Layer (untick)

How so? Not here. If the original shared Layer cannot be found, it is replaced though.

Ok, then I do not get default layers… Still I have to copy and paste or duplicate for each new part that I create…

You do need to be more specific. “sometimes it doesn’t” is not what we experience so pls. provide reproducible cases.

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Here’s the project and the saved song file from the project. You can try it out yourself: As soon as you add the song to another project the shared layers become unshared (regular layers)
Link to project file: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/7febbb1a182734b5ea74afa46c9a80a520250723100721/14f9779f606fedd5a73036b93118c8b420250723100742/47ae57?t_exp=1753524441&t_lsid=0f275ad9-1011-4ac1-9903-58049b6948c1&t_network=email&t_rid=ZW1haWx8YWRyb2l0fDFjM2UwYmZiLTI4N2YtNGE1Ny1hNDRkLTIyZjA4NWU4NGE0Ng==&t_s=download_link&t_ts=1753265262
song file or folder.zip (2,9 MB)

Ok: Add a layer, copy it, go to another part, past shared layer or duplicate shared (both does not work properly).

Change some settings of the layers inside the different parts (e. g. the volume, transpose, pan settings). Then go through the different parts and at least here the settings aren’t always as I changed them (e. g. if I turend the volume to - 10 dB in the second part (of the shared layer) and it is on 0 dB in the first part VST Live sometimes plays it right (as I have set it) and sometimes it doesn’t). If I then use the undo function and this way delete the shared layers and even the main layer the instrument sometimes still plays as if I didn’t delete the layer… That’s what at least happens here and what is a bug for years now as far as I can say…

A project is the whole thing. What do you mean “add the Song” - which Song, and where do you “add” it?
Sorry, there is a lot to do and don’t know what to do to reproduce, but thanks for the project.

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With your project, copy Layer 1 of the one Song. Create new Song, paste shared, all good.
This takes a lot of time…

You need to UN-tick it.

It is unticked :wink: If it was on I would even get more unwanted layers when I create new parts :wink:

Did you eg save a default song incl layer?

What I did so far was creating a song inside the Tracks window. After I created the song party and then was a bit frustrated about that I couldn’t create a layer for the whole song (that maybe would become shared automatically inside the parts) and after I saved the song as a song and imported it inside another project I’ve already told you what has happend and you hopefully could reproduce with the files that I’ve sent you…
I wished I could work more song-specific. Add layers that exist throughout the whole song (not needing to copy and past the layer over and over for every part) and maybe also get the transpose function for the song so I wouldn’t have to change individual parts, tracks and layers that I would like to be changed for the whole song

Yes. But I think as I just described my workflow I think this wouldn’t make sense. Would it?

Why dont u use some global layer instead??
Also SHARED LAYERS are just few clicks
Or if you not necesarry need to use parts, just live with one part structure only

But what do you want? Is the default Layer not sufficient?