As the title suggests, I would like (desperately) to see my Folder Tracks in the MixConsole.
Folder Tracks is a no-brainer for tidying things up in the Track List and obviously can do exactly the same in the MixConsole.
Especially when you have the option to sync the expansion/folded state of the Folder Tracks from the Track List to the MixConsole the same view of tracks you get makes navigation between the two windows easier.
What we have now is a tidy Track List and a chaotic MixConsole unless you start hiding tracks and/or Folder Tracks or creating multiple MixConsole views with different hidden Tracks which involves several clicks and some time to get it done.
It’s soooo counter intuitive not having this feature that can be compared only to Logic Pro’s not having a search bar for finding easily and quickly a plugin you need from a (usually) lengthy list (although Logic do show synced Folder Tracks in its Mixer as any other DAW I can think of (Pro Tools, Studio One, Ableton Live etc)).
I have purchased Cubase 13 Pro via cross-grading from Pro Tools due to better MIDI and Sampler implementations but the lack of this very feature prevents me using Cubase since for a full production and surely I won’t upgrade to Cubase 14 Pro and upwards until Steinberg implement this feature.
This is the one reason i dont use Cubase as my daily and only for projects clients give me in it.
this is the default for Ableton and Reapear,
and can be setup in studio one via " Linking Buses and Folders"
its by far the most intuitive way to have it setup.
instead of going to a panel off to the side to show hide its right there ready and visually links to it.
it also makes it easier to see whats in a BUS at a glance,
also visually connecting the 2 views is so easy to work with.
this is the number one thing cubase needs to look into to keep up with the competition. and cubase is so far ahead in other areas that its a shame this is its weak point.
They totally miss the mark with this one. So basic feature and yet so elusive for Steinberg concerning a really great, deep and musician friendly DAW they have in their hands.
My Cubase 14 upgrade awaits for this implementation and more unfortunately my Cubase 13 is on hold keeping my old DAW in service at least as a mixing tool…
Be sure that it will be an option if and when they implement it.
On the other hand you are going to have one entry in the MixConsole that can fold several tracks without hide them entirely JUST as it happens in the track list that I’m sure you’re using it all the time! I can’t see I single reason to use it in the track list and not in the MixConsole but keep it as an option will make both of us happy nonetheless.
Simply put, folders are used in different ways by different people.
Here, folders are used as containers for storing previous takes, alternate takes, raw vocal and other audio tracks pre-edit, etc. Nothing more. None of these tracks are routed to buses and, as a result, there would be no point in having these folders show up in the mix console.
The workflow you describe is mainly for tracking/recording and that’s perfectly fine.
For mixing though folder tracks contains all your drums in one place, all your basses in one place, all your leads in one place etc. so in the track list you are getting away with about 10 folder tracks to keep everything neat and tidy something you cannot achieve in the MixConsole unless several clicks involved hiding tracks away!
Besides, containing similar tracks together makes sense folder tracks to have Aux/Group Buss functionality.
Anyways, all these things are commonplace in most of the DAWs I can think of and arguing about the pros and cons here is like trying reinventing the wheel…
Steinberg/Cubase is on the wrong side with no apparent reason or advantage gain and needs to align with the others.
The only valid excuse I’ve heard (and if it’s true anyway) is that such a change needs fundamental reworking of the core coding which dates back to the 80s. If that’s the reason I can understand their decision not to implement it but they are still on the wrong side.