Simple and RAST-A missing in Halion and Halion Sonic

Simple and RAST-A are missing when I open Halion sonic and Halion 7 in Cubase 13- but are available in Halion Sonic SE 3 stand alone. (so not much use to me as I want to use them in the DAW).
I have tried all sorts of things including reloading but no luck.
any ideas