I always print notes for musicians during sessions. I could decide about every detail in old editor while in Cubase 14 I feel like somebody cuts my hands 
Very bad for me is I can’t open my old scores in new editor. I mean scores formatted in a same way as already did in previous editor. Compere to other daws Cubase was only one to have such a good score editing possibilities.
I tried new score editor for 5-6 hours and just couldn’t bring a piano midi track into clear and simple look. Why don’t they give a choice of witch one to use ? I have Dorico Pro and like it - but Dorico in Cubase ? Why ?
1 Like
I’ve recorded simple midi piano. After few clicks in old editor I had a score which was readable even for small kids - clear and simple look - actually my daughter was learning this from it.
In Cubase 14 - so far - I am not able to change same midi track into a nice score.
Hi Darek,
I’ve moved your post to a new thread, because the previous one was getting a bit crowded with various topics going on.
If you provide the project file, we can probably provide a few more specific suggestions how to improve your quick Harry Potter example. At first glance, I’d suggest to add a key signature, then select all notes for the right hand, press the Voice “1” button in the toolbar, to ensure all notes are in the same voice. The same then for the left hand. From that point onwards, I suspect there may just be a few durations to tweak (possibly looking at the Interpretation section of the Instrument Settings first, to ensure the default value is sensible for this piece).
1 Like
Hi @AudioProgres - are you able to attach the raw Midi file/project file you used.?
Maybe it will help the team investigate the results you’re seeing and what you might need to do to get closer to C13 output/look in C14.
EDIT:- Ah.! Stefan beat me to it… 
hey
Thanks for quick reply here I’ve prepared short part of it. Four instruments - each to print separately.
Yes, I didn’t setup in that screenshot a key signature - I was at once fighting with voices and slurs. Of course we are in e-moll
So please open this short example and let’s talk about it. Project comes from Nuendo 13.
I’ve jus saw there’s a new Cubase update - 14.0.10. A lot of work around score editor. I will try again after updating
I have no success.
Red notes are channel 1 (right hand) and black notes are channel 3 (left hand)
What should I do to keep this order in a score ?
My result for now look like this. There are my ugly drawings with additional questions
After next hour I have reached for some success. Still don’t know how to get rid of tempo changes. Only first tempo should stay
Potter_2grade_____.cpr (489.0 KB)
Earlier it was ten clicks with a mouse and was not perfect but enough good to work.
So many things I had to correct at the piano roll to achieve this.
I’ve spent a while looking at your project. So your requirement is for a simplified piano part. You don’t want the automatic voice splitting into 2 voices in each hand.
You should be able to just disable the 2nd voice in Score > Instrument Settings, but I’ve just discovered there’s a bug there that prevents it using one voice in each hand. I’ve now fixed this bug for the next update.
Now if I open Score > Instruments, disable the 2nd voice and turn off pedal lines and slurs then I get a cleaner result in one voice. If you don’t want the tempo marks shown then they can be hidden by selecting them in the Info Line in the Tempo Track and setting Show in Score > Auto.
The new score editor doesn’t use MIDI channels to store the voice information: there’s a new internal property for this.
In the diagram you show above, the natural accidental on b15 is required because in bar 14 you have Eb and Bb.
Thank you very much for your help and tips. It helps. I know I will have to develop my skills in this new score editor
Few more things I wanted to ask:
- Earlier I could move, squeeze or stretch every slur. Are they now automatic only ?
- I could earlier manually move staves and grand staves. Are they now automatic only ?
- Can I break grand stave to next somehow - earlier I did it with split tool. Or can maybe change bar count in single row ?
Sorry for extending this topic but I only would like to write about
strange thing witch is a little funny for me.
The only way to import midi to Dorico Pro 5 to further detailed work, was - first - formatting midi in Cubase score editor and export it as MusicXML. Then by importing MusicXML to Dorico I could work further.
But importing midi file direct to Dorico was always a trouble. It needed so much work.
Example
Imported MusicXML to Dorico
Same song but imported to Dorico as midi file
Hmm… I firmly believe accidentals reset on a new bar.
Currently there’s a limitation that slurs are either fully automatic or fully manual. If the option in Instrument Settings > Interpretation > Slurs is on then a slur will be added if notes have a small amount of overlap. These automatic slurs can’t currently be edited directly, but this is on our list to add in a future version. You can create slurs manually, which can be nudged.
At the moment there aren’t many ways of changing the spacing of systems. The main tools in Layout Settings are to be able to change Page Setup > Rastral Size (ie stave size), and Staves and Systems > Fixed number of bars per system or systems per page. You can also add a system break: select a note at the start of the bar you want on the next system and choose Score > System Break.
You can now export Cubase files directly to Dorico: File > Export > Dorico Project.
Please remember that the new Score Editor is still a work in progress, and we’re very busy filling in the areas where there has been a loss of functionality.
Hmm… I firmly believe accidentals reset on a new bar.
There are many options in Dorico to reflect the many different conventions on this (this is just the first page of options):
Hopefully we’ll be able to expose some control in Cubase too.
That’s super. However, if the same level of options are not migrated to Cubase, I think “Notes at the same octave in the following bar” should show “No cautionary” (no natural accidental).
Not saying it does not exist, but in 30 years I have never come across a score where a new bar does not reset accidentals, be it classical, jazz or rock/pop.
I also think the default for a note in a different octave in the same bar should not show a natural accidental. I know there are cases of scores where an accidental applies to all octaves, but these are rare, typically very old and not the norm today.
I understand the the Cubase score editor will never have the same granularity and number of options as Dorico. Therefor especially, should it default to the most common standards and conventions of today.
1 Like
I was talking about Cubase/Nuendo 13. Probably if it was in C13 I would use it but MusicXML worked very good.
I wanted only share my personal opinion as user of Nuendo13 and Dorico Pro 5 that for most - even more complicated scoring - Dorico wasn’t nesesery at all.
Thank you very much for explaining. During waiting for next updates I will focus on new score editor and I will try to make me more friendly with it.
1 Like