SL12 at day 1

So year, lots and lots and lots of bugs are popping out of nowhere…
SL is just too good to have a suboptimal implementation.
Please, please, please Steinberg do a thorough testing before releasing version 12.0.1 !

I found many bugs today, but I am just to tired to make a record of every single one.
Does the product betatesting really needs to take place at the customers desk???

NO!

Hi, please desribe the bugs you have found.
Kay

In SpectraLayers Pro 12, even when “AI Processing Device” is set to GPU, isn’t most of the actual processing still being handled by the CPU?

Ok, here is one:
When selecting something, the fading does not change dynamically. The size of the fading must be set before the selection takes place.

Ok, this might be a “feature”, but I consider this as a bug.

Here is another one:

When using the signal generator and “insert” a tones, it remains empty, nothing is inserted.

The signal generator does not work as one could expect.

The signal generator might not be the main purpose of SL, but if it is there, it should work as expected. This goes for every module, every function. If it ain’t work properly, than just delete it, don’t advertise it.

Here some very minor glitch, that is an unnecessary eyecatcher.

When starting a new stereo project, the envelope is not a straight line. Why so?

This might seem very picky (and it is, yes!), but is there a reason for this?

Just tried this simple test and I see the same as you show here, when using “insert”. I tried it then with “replace” (well in German there is the text “Ersetzen”) and it generates the signal as expected.

So the generator works, but just not as one would expect it. That needs to be fixed.

And another one, which might take one by surpise… or not.

Nope! Unmixing does not null!

Just pick a song, make a duplicate, unmix second one, than add the unmixed stuff again, save both tracks (first original and second unmixed/remixed tracks). Use another daw (just to give it some independance) like Wavelab or Audacity. Load both tracks, invert one of them, add them up…and voila, there is a residue → Therefore not null
Even more interesting, there appears a rhytmic pattern of noise as can be clearly seen here (after normalization). Also, notice the slight difference near null in left and right channel.

The residue is very small and for most cases probably irrelevant, but it is there and to say “null” is just a false statement. Probably numerically and algorithmic artifcats, maybe. Especially when working with float/real numbers, numeric calculations can be very ugly.

So, I would not call this a bug, actually, rather a misunderstanding when calling it “null”.
Well, maybe I would call the rhytmic residue a bug, though.

This is by design currently

This cannot be reproduced here.

Please give some more infos which settings you have chosen by creating a new project such as Sample Rate and Configuration. Thanks.

Just as you similarly ask of others, can you give more detail.? Please describe your system, steps taken etc… (screenshots of results would be helpful too). Thanks.

1 Like
  • Regarding the selection behavior : this is by design, since the very first version of SpectraLayers; for the same reason you don’t change the settings of tools such as the Eraser expecting it to change what you already erased, the same goes for selection tools.
    However SL12 introduces a much better and more dynamic way to adjust selection size and fading, see https://youtu.be/_jetglwxTxo?t=950 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAoWw1JwwE&t=314s

  • I could repro the Signal Generator insert issue, will be fixed in patch 1.

  • It doesn’t look like an envelope issue (the envelope is not shown unless you activate it in the Layers panel, and I don’t see an envelope white dot in this screenshot), could be a small graphic glitch that happens with some GPUs (such as Intel or Snapdragon) when rendering flat waveform.

  • I could repro the “non-null” test but it only shows this pattern at -96dB in my tests, which is quite negligible residuals. I really have to amplify the spectrogram quite hard to see it… I’ll look into that though.

2 Likes

No desrespect to Steinberg, but I give it a year before upgrading to new versions of SB products…for a good reason.