“standard - solo” sounds like crap for anything more than the smallest pitch change.
it also sounds like crap for anything more than the slightest length change.
In another thread (which I can no longer find) SB said that they think “standard solo” sounds better than “elastique”.
I beg to differ! There is a world of difference. Elastique is way smoother, more like melodyne. They also said that “elastique cannot be used to change pitch, only duration, that’s why it can’t be used in variaudio”. That is contradicting information in the manual - one of their elastique algorithms is called “elastique with formant correction” - when else can you have formant correction besides when changing the pitch??
1: Mystery. May work on short samples. Like you I tried it just in a song I am working on. I think it’s a dark art to get either the Sample editor or the Audio editor at will.
2: Transposing portions is less strain on the CPU which means you get less artifacts. And short notes will be less apt to have artifacts too so you may have to have a couple of goes at long note sections.
3: Use pitch-shifting as little as possible. If we still can’t get drum machines right then the job with melodic instruments will be at least ten times as hard.
4: Never believe the promo guff. It’s never as good as they say it is. It 's definitely never as good as any of us thinks it should be.
I recorded some vocal takes… and i am with the same dilemma.
On Pro Tools, we can in fact, change the algorithm we want to work and we work!
I’m on Cubase 6.5… Here, even if we select the elastique pro pitch formant algorithm in order to change the vocals, the editor immediately change the algorithm to standard solo after changing one note with variaudio… WHY?
I can’t understand where is the sense here.
isnt it best to use variaudio in mono always(dont know if you were) ,plus i was reading something somewhere and it said its best to get rid of all other noises even breathing because the pitch shift dosesnt know what to do with it . i don`t know.
Yes, thats true…
But what i’m talking doesn’t have nothing to do with that matter.
I use professional material… i don’t have noises and such…
The thing is, i thought we could use better algorithms while editing voices in pitch correction.
Sometimes we have limitations, we hear glitches and transients…
I thought that its very strange to have the option to select the algorithms and not use them while in Variaudio.
If you have patience and want a really god result you can go mad scientist on it. In addition to using VariAudio or Melodyne, make a composite of many different pitch shifted files if you’re going for more extreme transposing than your standard pitch correction. Cut, paste, crossfade, use the best parts and make one track of it. That’s the only way I can get a decent sounding take without metallic sounding artifacts on S-es and things like that.