Spectralayers Pro 10 ARA2 mode Graphics Corruption

[Elderman]

Ive posted this picture of a graphics problem im getting with Spectralayers 10 Pro in ARA mode in Cubase 13 Pro.The standalone version works fine the problem only occurs when used as an extension within Cubase.On loading a Cubase project the Spectralayers extension works fine for a while but after performing a few editing tasks the waveform display area corrupts as shown in the picture.The moment the corruption happens is always when you go back to the Spectralayers editor from another editor eg waveform or midi.All the Spectralayers functions still work and the layers can still be heard during playback but the waveform display area just remains corrupt so its impossible to carry on.After doing abit of research on the net im wondering if this is an OpenGL issue.Ive posted 2 Spectralayers output logs below ,one from the standalone version and the other from the ARA mode within Cubase.I notice in the ARA mode log there are warning entries about “QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name=“QEmbeddedClassWindow”) must be a top level window”.
Here are a couple of things ive tried but had no success in fixing the problem.
1 Tried an old video driver about one year old.
2 Tried the latest Nvidia game ready driver.
3 Tried the latest Nvidia studio driver.
4 Created program profiles for both Cubase and Spectrlayers in the Nvidia Control Panel with varying settings.
5 Switched on and off all DPI scaling.

One last thing ive noticed with this problem is when i first load a cubase project and click on an audio event which uses the Spectralayers extension the editor displays in the lower pane as normal.If i then select a normal audio event (with no extensions) and then reselect the audio event with the Spectralayers extension the Spectralayers editor does not show in the lower pane.I then have to use the work around of clicking the MixConsole tab first and then reclicking the Editor tab to get the editor to show.If i repeat the above process but go from the spectralayers editor to the midi editor and then back to the Spectralayers editor it all works fine.
Well i hope there is enough information here for someone to help fix the problem i would have made a video but you cant post videos when your a new forum member.

Spectralayers Standalone Output Log:

14:07:46.433 18a0 INFO  C:\Program Files\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10\Win64\SpectraLayers.exe 
14:07:46.433 18a0 INFO  auto-detected folder: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10\Win64\
14:07:46.937 18a0 INFO  early init done
14:07:46.939 18a0 INFO  creating app...
14:07:46.943 18a0 INFO  loading properties...
14:07:46.954 18a0 INFO  en en
14:07:46.955 18a0 INFO  session SpectraLayers 2024.02.18-14.07.46.431 started - slp10srv
14:07:46.955 18a0 INFO  SpectraLayers Pro 10.0.50 Build 343 (x86_64 - Qt 6.2.2 - qtnamespace: DivideFrame - MSVC 1929)
14:07:47.022 18a0 INFO  OS: Windows 11 Version 2009 (Kernel: 10.0.22621) (en_GB)
14:07:47.022 18a0 INFO  CPU: 24 threads (AVX2)
14:07:47.022 18a0 INFO  RAM: 64 GB
14:07:47.023 18a0 INFO  HDD: 931 GB (290 GB free)
14:07:47.023 18a0 INFO  SCR0: 1920x1200x32@59.95Hz (device pixel ratio: 1) (primary)
14:07:47.023 18a0 INFO  creating window...
14:07:47.023 18a0 INFO  loading plugins...
14:07:47.338 18a0 INFO  34 plugins loaded
14:07:47.338 18a0 INFO  initializing UI...
14:07:47.390 18a0 INFO  layout and graphic objects initialized
14:07:47.402 18a0 INFO  setting shortcuts and properties
14:07:47.704 18a0 INFO  UI initialized
14:07:47.715 18a0 INFO  Ready
14:07:48.177 18a0 INFO  Show
14:07:48.225 19f0 INFO  checking WASAPI...
14:07:48.235 19f0 INFO  scanning 5 devices...
14:07:48.240 19f0 INFO   HP w2408 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) (0/2 channels, 48000 Hz)
14:07:48.242 19f0 INFO   Line (6- Steinberg UR22C) (0/2 channels, 44100 Hz)
14:07:48.245 19f0 INFO   Speakers (Realtek USB2.0 Audio) (0/2 channels, 44100 Hz) (default output)
14:07:48.247 19f0 INFO   Analog Connector (Realtek USB2.0 Audio) (2/0 channels, 44100 Hz) (default input)
14:07:48.249 19f0 INFO   Line (6- Steinberg UR22C) (2/0 channels, 44100 Hz)
14:07:48.250 18a0 INFO  I/O: WASAPI (Default System Input/Speakers (Realtek USB2.0 Audio))
14:08:13.268 18a0 INFO  New Project SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)   441000  samples)
14:08:13.438 19f0 INFO  Project Samplerate: 44100Hz Device Samplerate: 44100Hz
14:08:13.630 18a0 INFO  GPU:  NVIDIA Corporation  /  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
14:08:13.630 18a0 INFO  OGL:  3.3.0 NVIDIA 551.23  /  3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler  /  OpenGL  3 . 3  Core
14:09:58.951 18a0 INFO  importing: C:/Music/Workarea/WAVEFILE/Dance Samples 44K 16Bit PCM/Drum Loops/105e.wav
14:09:58.951 18a0 INFO  session path: C:\Users\newbo\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10.0\Cache
14:09:58.951 18a0 INFO  providing path: C:\Users\newbo\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10.0\Cache\layer(3e19bf6e).pcm
14:09:59.009 18a0 INFO  Read 105e.wav SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)   201196  samples,  16 bits  int )
14:12:56.009 18a0 INFO  importing: C:/Music/Workarea/WAVEFILE/Dance Samples 44K 16Bit PCM/Drum Loops/107d.wav
14:12:56.009 18a0 INFO  session path: C:\Users\newbo\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10.0\Cache
14:12:56.009 18a0 INFO  providing path: C:\Users\newbo\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10.0\Cache\layer(cd2c6c9c).pcm
14:12:56.051 18a0 INFO  Read 107d.wav SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)   197006  samples,  16 bits  int )

Spectralayers ARA Output Log:

10:20:51.248 11b8 INFO  C:\Program Files\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10\Win64\SpectraLayers.dll -platform windows:nowmpointer 
10:20:51.248 11b8 INFO  auto-detected folder: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\SpectraLayers 10\Win64\
10:20:51.694 11b8 INFO  early init done
10:20:51.700 11b8 INFO  creating app...
10:20:51.758 11b8 INFO  loading properties...
10:20:52.062 11b8 INFO  en en
10:20:52.064 11b8 INFO  session SpectraLayers 2024.02.19-10.20.51.245 started - embedded
10:20:52.064 11b8 INFO  SpectraLayers Pro 10.0.50 Build 343 (x86_64 - Qt 6.2.2 - qtnamespace: DivideFrame - MSVC 1929)
10:20:52.065 11b8 INFO  OS: Windows 11 Version 2009 (Kernel: 10.0.22621) (en_GB)
10:20:52.065 11b8 INFO  CPU: 24 threads (AVX2)
10:20:52.065 11b8 INFO  RAM: 64 GB
10:20:52.066 11b8 INFO  HDD: 931 GB (289 GB free)
10:20:52.066 11b8 INFO  SCR0: 1920x1200x32@59.95Hz (device pixel ratio: 1) (primary)
10:20:52.066 11b8 INFO  creating window...
10:20:52.087 11b8 INFO  loading plugins...
10:20:53.037 11b8 INFO  34 plugins loaded
10:20:53.037 11b8 INFO  initializing UI...
10:20:53.093 11b8 INFO  layout and graphic objects initialized
10:20:53.115 11b8 INFO  setting shortcuts and properties
10:20:53.402 11b8 INFO  UI initialized
10:20:53.406 11b8 INFO  Ready
10:20:54.175 11b8 INFO  Host: Cubase
10:20:54.337 11b8 INFO  Host: Cubase
10:20:54.341 11b8 INFO  Host: Cubase
10:20:54.372 11b8 INFO  creating external project SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)
10:20:54.375 11b8 INFO  activating external project  SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)
10:22:06.036 11b8 INFO  Show (0x20730)
10:22:06.304 11b8 INFO  GPU:  NVIDIA Corporation  /  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
10:22:06.304 11b8 INFO  OGL:  3.3.0 NVIDIA 551.23  /  3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler  /  OpenGL  3 . 3  Core
10:22:06.396 11b8 INFO  activating external project  SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)
10:22:06.406 11b8 INFO  activating external project  SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)
10:22:11.963 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:22:15.706 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:26:02.598 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:26:05.397 11b8 INFO  scanning VST3 plugins... (0 files)
10:26:05.397 11b8 INFO  VST3 scan done
10:26:05.400 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:27:30.340 11b8 INFO  opening vst3 plugin file C:/Program Files/Common Files/VST3/Yamaha/REV-X_HALL.vst3 with effect REV-X Hall...
10:27:30.416 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:27:41.312 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:27:45.956 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:27:45.964 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x2fe09060, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:28:39.323 11b8 INFO  Hide
10:28:47.299 11b8 INFO  Show (0x90828)
10:28:47.509 11b8 INFO  activating external project  SamplingFormat(Real, 44100Hz, Audio, 2 channel(s), mapping: 11)
10:28:58.289 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:28:58.300 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:32:15.469 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:32:19.299 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:32:19.308 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:33:45.437 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:33:48.284 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.
10:33:48.293 11b8 WARNING  QWidgetWindow(0x626bddb0, name="QEmbeddedClassWindow") must be a top level window.

Current Specs and Versions:

Current Cubase 13 Pro Version 13.0.21 Build 181 (x64)
Current Spectralayers 10 Pro standalone and ARA Version 10.0.50 Build 343 (x86_64) 
Processor	12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900KF   3.20 GHz
Installed RAM	64.0 GB
System type	64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Windows 11 Pro
Version	22H2
OS build	22621.3155
Experience	Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22684.1000.0

NVIDIA System Information
[Display]
DirectX version:	12.0 
GPU processor:		NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
Driver version:		551.23
Driver Type:		DCH
Direct3D feature level:	12_1
CUDA Cores:		4864 
Resizable BAR		No
Core clock:		1695 MHz 
Memory data rate:	14.00 Gbps
Memory interface:	256-bit 
Memory bandwidth:	448.06 GB/s
Total available graphics memory:	40866 MB
Dedicated video memory:	8192 MB GDDR6
System video memory:	0 MB
Shared system memory:	32674 MB
Video BIOS version:	94.04.6B.00.47
IRQ:			Not used
Bus:			PCI Express x16 Gen4
Device ID:		10DE 2489 663019DA
Part Number:		G190 0012

[Components]

nvui.dll		8.17.15.5123		NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdplcy.dll		8.17.15.5123		NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdbat.dll		8.17.15.5123		NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdapix.dll		8.17.15.5123		NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
NVCPL.DLL		8.17.15.5123		NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvCplUIR.dll		8.1.940.0		NVIDIA Control Panel
nvCplUI.exe		8.1.940.0		NVIDIA Control Panel
nvWSSR.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvWSS.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvViTvSR.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Video Server
nvViTvS.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Video Server
nvLicensingS.dll		6.14.15.5123		NVIDIA Licensing Server
nvDevToolSR.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Licensing Server
nvDevToolS.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
nvDispSR.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Display Server
nvDispS.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA Display Server
PhysX		09.21.0713		NVIDIA PhysX
NVCUDA64.DLL		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA CUDA 12.4.74 driver
nvGameSR.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
nvGameS.dll		31.0.15.5123		NVIDIA 3D Settings Server

[Robin_Lobel]

Strange, as a NV RTX 3060 is usually pretty safe in term of drivers.
Could you download a free version of Reaper to check if the display is also corrupt when assigning SpectraLayers to an audio clip ?

[Elderman]

Hello Robin thanks for the quick response.I tried spectralayers within Reaper like you asked and ive posted the log output file below.Its still showing the WARNING QWidgetWindow(0x1e3a0af0, name=“QEmbeddedClassWindow”) must be a top level window error.I was able to open and close the editor quite a few times with no problems.I was able to do quite a few editing tasks and even use a VST3 plugin and still the display remained intact.But then i opened the editor from a second track i had created and yes it had the same graphics corruption.Switching back to the first track and that now also had corrupt graphics.
I tried one last test with Reaper before i posted this on the forum and got some interesting results.I created 2 audio tracks and assigned Spectralayers to both tracks.I found out that after the graphics became corrupted if you make the editor window very small close it and reopen it the corruption has gone and you can then enlarge the window to normal size.Ive shown this in the picture above where the bottom window has been reduced in size and re-opened.This idea got me thinking if i could try the same trick in Cubase would it work.I loaded a project into Cubase then opened the Spectralayers editor into the external window view and made the window size as small as possible.Now when the graphics corrupt in the lower pane editor i can just open it to the external window then close it back to the lower pane and bingo the corruption dissapears.Not ideal but at least its a work around which will enable me to continue using the editor.Question is does anyone know if this is a Spectralayers problem or is a problem with my graphics settings.

Spectralayers ARA in Reaper Output Log:
SpectraLayers ARA Mode in Reaper.zip (1.4 KB)

[Sam_Hocking]

I’ve experience a similar graphics issue with a VST plugin I use. Nvidia 3080Ti but never in SpectraLayers so probably unrelated. I did open a support ticket with the VST developer though so will report back if they find out what causes this.

[Elderman]

Hello Sam try the work around i mention in my previous post i know its not ideal but it is working for me.If the plugin allows you to resize its window make it as small as possible ,close the plugin and reopen it.Also sometimes the Host will automatically set the plugin window size so like in Reaper i had to disable that option first.Good luck.