Stability under 7.0.4?

Cubase
1

Anyone else experiencing crashes since upgrading to 7.0.4 on OSX 10.8.x?

Third one tonight while working with a newly recorded vocal track. Also auto backup files are saying they cannot be opened because they were ‘created with Cubase 1.x’ and ‘This program version cannot load it.’

Last crash was while trying to CMD+Option+S to save which would have chosen a filename chosen by the auto-backup recovery. (i.e. it was up to version 08, auto backup had renamed a version to 09 and 10, from version 08 I CMD+Option+S which would have tried to save 09, crash).

…while typing this I just loaded up version 08 - crash.

FFS.

:angry:


*edit - forget the filename clash supposition - I just relocated the backup files that don’t work, loaded up version 08, immediately tried to save it and crash.


Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO             0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [    4K] ---/--- SM=NUL  /Applications/Cubase 7.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 7
    __TEXT                 0000000000001000-00000000026ed000 [ 38.9M] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Cubase 7.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 7

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01269943 0x1000 + 19302723
1   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0126a0c0 0x1000 + 19304640
2   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00448d53 0x1000 + 4488531
3   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
4   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0036c70d 0x1000 + 3585805
5   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
6   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01183604 0x1000 + 18359812
7   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
8   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0159bdce 0x1000 + 22654414
9   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x011856ec 0x1000 + 18368236
10  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x003672b5 0x1000 + 3564213
11  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
12  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015f609b 0x1000 + 23023771
13  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
14  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015f6138 0x1000 + 23023928
15  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
16  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015f6138 0x1000 + 23023928
17  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
18  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015f4ba5 0x1000 + 23018405
19  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
20  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x005f4825 0x1000 + 6240293
21  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
22  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x005507cf 0x1000 + 5568463
23  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
24  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0086bf35 0x1000 + 8826677
25  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
26  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017d38b0 0x1000 + 24979632
27  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017d9aaf 0x1000 + 25004719
28  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c07ee 0x1000 + 9172974
29  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c13fc 0x1000 + 9176060
30  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015b915c 0x1000 + 22774108
31  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c3cf1 0x1000 + 9186545
32  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c029e 0x1000 + 22803102
33  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c02cb 0x1000 + 22803147
34  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x018b8d67 0x1000 + 25918823
35  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c07db 0x1000 + 22804443
36  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015bd0aa 0x1000 + 22790314
37  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0161fded 0x1000 + 23195117
38  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c355e 0x1000 + 9184606
39  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01662881 0x1000 + 23468161
40  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x018914ca 0x1000 + 25756874
41  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97dd3b61 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 7432
42  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97dce97f -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4278
43  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x012a10a6 0x1000 + 19529894
44  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97ce869c -[NSApplication run] + 951
45  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0189f08b 0x1000 + 25813131
46  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0189f0c4 0x1000 + 25813188
47  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01661e23 0x1000 + 23465507
48  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0161e3fc 0x1000 + 23188476
49  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00e922e6 0x1000 + 15274726
50  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x012a0704 0x1000 + 19527428
51  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00002d05 0x1000 + 7429
2

not crashes but 7.4 is the first version where my mixer is messed up. sometimes my whole right side is gone and even checked the MASTER LED section is gone

and alot of my tracks on the right hand side, and even if i minimize the tracks to their narrowest they are just gone

3

…panic over -

In the Audio folder, I deleted some zero byte audio files - tried that but still crashing.

Backed up project, ‘minimising’ audio files, opened the new version, now I can save again.

I think I’ve found a bug within Cubase when it encounters a certain type of problem file.

4

…and now this is happening with another project. If I simply open it then try to save, crash.

This project was last opened in 2010, so was produced with Cubase 6.5.x

Anyone else seeing this behaviour…?

Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO             0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [    4K] ---/--- SM=NUL  /Applications/Cubase 7.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 7
    __TEXT                 0000000000001000-00000000026ed000 [ 38.9M] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Cubase 7.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 7

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01269943 0x1000 + 19302723
1   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0126a0c0 0x1000 + 19304640
2   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00448d53 0x1000 + 4488531
3   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
4   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0036c70d 0x1000 + 3585805
5   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
6   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01183604 0x1000 + 18359812
7   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
8   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0159bdce 0x1000 + 22654414
9   com.steinberg.cubase          	0x011856ec 0x1000 + 18368236
10  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x003672b5 0x1000 + 3564213
11  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
12  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0052c190 0x1000 + 5419408
13  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0032a637 0x1000 + 3315255
14  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
15  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x005421e1 0x1000 + 5509601
16  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0054212f 0x1000 + 5509423
17  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
18  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0052c190 0x1000 + 5419408
19  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0057082c 0x1000 + 5699628
20  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0033beba 0x1000 + 3387066
21  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
22  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x005421e1 0x1000 + 5509601
23  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00577bf5 0x1000 + 5729269
24  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
25  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0052c190 0x1000 + 5419408
26  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00544b7c 0x1000 + 5520252
27  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x005407ba 0x1000 + 5502906
28  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00550790 0x1000 + 5568400
29  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
30  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0086bf35 0x1000 + 8826677
31  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017f2ce9 0x1000 + 25107689
32  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017d38b0 0x1000 + 24979632
33  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x017d9aaf 0x1000 + 25004719
34  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c07ee 0x1000 + 9172974
35  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c13fc 0x1000 + 9176060
36  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015b915c 0x1000 + 22774108
37  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c3cf1 0x1000 + 9186545
38  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c029e 0x1000 + 22803102
39  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c02cb 0x1000 + 22803147
40  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x018b8d67 0x1000 + 25918823
41  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015c07db 0x1000 + 22804443
42  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x015bd0aa 0x1000 + 22790314
43  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0161fded 0x1000 + 23195117
44  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x008c355e 0x1000 + 9184606
45  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01662881 0x1000 + 23468161
46  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x018914ca 0x1000 + 25756874
47  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97dd3b61 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 7432
48  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97dce97f -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4278
49  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x012a10a6 0x1000 + 19529894
50  com.apple.AppKit              	0x97ce869c -[NSApplication run] + 951
51  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0189f08b 0x1000 + 25813131
52  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0189f0c4 0x1000 + 25813188
53  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x01661e23 0x1000 + 23465507
54  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x0161e3fc 0x1000 + 23188476
55  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00e922e6 0x1000 + 15274726
56  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x012a0704 0x1000 + 19527428
57  com.steinberg.cubase          	0x00002d05 0x1000 + 7429
5

Aloha F,

No new 7.0.4 probs here with either:

1-Desktop in the studio.
2-Laptop live on stage.

There is a new small graphic prob with the ‘Info Line’
on the laptop. (but the laptop uses OSX7.5)

But no show stoppers.

Hope you get it sorted.
{‘-’}

6

Ok - load up project from 2010 - Save As → CRASH

Remove all ‘unused’ audio files from pool → Save As → CRASH

Remove all VSTis → Save As → CRASH

Remove all SSL plugins (I’ve been having some license problems with their code meter thing) → Save As → CRASH

Load up same project in Cubase 6.5.3 → Save As → Saved.

Something is not right with version 7.

7

Create empty project in 6.5.3 → Save.

Open same project in v7.0.4 → Save As → Saved.

8

My beef now with 7.04 is when attempting to lengthen the mixer by draging to the right …the mixer starts to increase in height as well. Grrrr!

9

RIGHT.

After two wasted evenings of messing around, I’ve discovered what I believe to be a serious bug in C7. I cannot (yet) reproduce it (I’m a bit strapped for time right at this moment) but I understand what will cause it.

ISSUE:

Let’s say we have a C6.5.3 project with shared copies of audio files in the pool. Some may have been processed, and a ‘new version’ created, however they reference the same audio file. (Edits are stored in the ‘Edits’ folder in the project folder). There may be other non-shared audio files in the pool.

In Cubase the shared copies appear with the same name, but with a number in brackets after them. i.e.

Audio 01
Audio 01 (2)
Audio 01 (3)
…
etc.

If I load up such a project into C7.0.4, then simply try to save as, it immediately crashes. (I did try rolling back to 7.0.3 - same problem). It gets as far as creating the new filename, but when attempting to load it it displays an error that it was ‘created with Cubase 1.x’ and cannot be loaded.

If I remove all items from the pool that reference the same file (so I remove Audio 01, Audio 01 (2), etc. but leave other audio files) then it doesn’t crash when I try to save. It does not matter if the files actually exist or not.

The ONLY thing that stops the crash, is removing all references to shared copies of files. The files do not have to be deleted, only removed from the pool.

If I use the Finder to copy the .cpr project file only into a new folder, load it up, I get warnings that files are missing, click through them (so I have an open project with items in the pool, but the audio files are missing), try to save, CRASH. Load it up, remove the shared references, saves fine.

I tried to reproduce this behaviour by making a file in C6, making shared copies, loading into C7, but it saves without crashing. Something is very wrong here.