Staff Labels alignment Symphonic Band

I’m writing an arrangement for symphonic band, where there is a standard to have the staff labels left-aligned. I want to have the numbers right aligned, which works fine with the paragraph styles “Staff labels” and “Staff labels (inner)”, condensing, and the settings in Engraving Options, but only if there are two or more instruments per staff. If there is only one instrument on a staff, it remains left-aligned with the staff label. Is there a setting that will also make it right-aligned?

Example: Here I want the “1” of “Clarinet 1 also to be right-aligned.

Is this possible in Dorico 6?

Many thanks!

Yes it is:

But I’m actually not sure why you get something different. Are you using Player Name instead of Instrument Name for some players ? I can’t find a setting that gives me what you get!

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I’m actually using instrument names on every instrument, not player names. I’m curious what setting makes it appear like in your example.

And I’m curious what setting makes it appear like in your example :slightly_smiling_face:
Have you manually edited the instrument names, maybe?

My settings: Staff Labels left aligned, Staff labels (inner) right aligned, and:

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I have the same settings here in Engraving Options and also in Paragraph Styles.

I edited the Clarinet names, but have tried it with the horns to check. Same result. There must be a setting somewhere deep in Dorico’s options that we don’t remember :slightly_smiling_face:

If you share your (cut down) project file I’m sure someone will be able to find out. :slight_smile:

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Here’s a project with an example and my settings. I started this file from scratch to check if it’s something in my template. But same result.

Many thanks for your help!

Example Staff Labels Symphonic Band.dorico (1.4 MB)

Interesting… It seems to be related to the Custom Condensing Group with Cl. 2 & 3.

If you remove this group and, instead, make a condensing change at the beginning, the issue disappears.

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Good find @charles_piano

Jesper

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@charles_piano That does it! Many thanks :smiley:

The question is, why is it working with this workaround, and not with the normal settings? Have you done it this way in your own project, or is there something special with my file?

Most important: it works. But it would be interesting why :slightly_smiling_face:

(I also tried it with a costum condensing group in Layout options with Clarinet 1 as one group and Clarinets 2 and 3 as a second one, which did not the same as the condensing change.)

Strange, but maybe someone could explain.

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Apparently nothing special with your file, I tried with a new project from the scratch: same issue.

I agree!

I also tried when I noticed this oddity with the Custom Group!

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My wild guess is that it may have something to do with when things get evaluated. With the custom condensing groups in Layout Options, that info gets taken into account when constructing the staff labels, so Dorico sees one individual clarinet (number grouped with instrument name) and a condensed group of 2. With the condensing change, Dorico has already decided to use the condensed style of labeling (right-aligned number) for all clarinets before it sees what the groups should look like.

But I’m not sure that explains why Clarinet 1 gets an individual label even when set up in Layout Options as its own condensing group.

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