This is nothing personal, I understand your frustrations, when you can see something easier and a program is not coded that way, you feel that. I really understand that.
However what I don’t understand is that there is a way to do this and it is very short, but you say it’s painful. Why is it painful?
You said there are many reasons but you haven’t told me one apart from the feeling.
For me it is not even a workaround, because whenever I want to record the signal from them, I just insert extFX where you want to record from on input channels, that is very logical to me. I can’t see any drawbacks particular to this use case, what is the problem here?
To my workflow is quite difficult to set up the inputs every time I want to record my drum on top of my pre produced tracks.
I work with 16 channel drum inputs. Right after I correct the phase and do a little mix on it, using outboard gear.
If you say there is a way to set up 16 ch in less than a minute having to put a insert efx in each track, without to follow labels etc I start to use Cubase again, I really like Cubase, I think his midi capabilities are the best, I’m waiting to come back to it.
I just stumbled upon this thread and I’m hoping that somebody can help me. I’m trying to figure out a way to connect my hardware stereo compressor into my system to use it on the master buss. I’m running 13 pro and my input interface is a Presonus StudioLive series 3 mixer. If I want compression on anything going in, I can use the onboard compression in the mixer. Or in the DAW of course.
I mainly want to do this as an experiment to see and hear if it’s actually better than plugins.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Jeremykeys
The best and easiest way is to create an external FX instance in the F4 audio setup window and assign i/o there. The external FX will appear in your plugin list and can be used just like a normal vst plugin.
In addition press the ping button to measure the delay of the round trip and the latency of the device, it will show 1.7ms, 0.8ms, and sometimes negative depending on your interface, since v13 the value can go negative. This delay will be automatically compensated (tracks will play forward in time with this amount).
Then you can freely bypass/engage to see if it makes the magic, or not.
I like using a real compressor in the master bus. I own 1178, 9098, 2LA2A, and audient sumo with an SSL like buss comp these can be used in master, if I have one of these in master, I feel quite comfortable and tweak tracks a lot less. Having EQs (massive passive or GML8200) don’t make me feel that way, analog compressors are special, imo.
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Yeah, this area could use some love from the devs. The only thing I’m really missing from Studio One is their implementation of external effects.
This is definitely one of the more perplexing parts of Cubase. Every time I use external effects, I think “This would work so much better if Steinberg simply implemented this as a plugin with parameters like almost every other DAW does”.
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can you explain what you mean? I use external FX a lot and they just come up as ‘plugins’ for me, there’s no parameters needed to be tweaked once it’s setup as they’re obviously on the Hardware, so not sure I 'm following.
Regarding Studio one, appart from having a nice picture of your fX and the waveform matching which does what ‘ping’ does in cubase, what is actually better?
M
External effects are misleadingly found in the insert fx menu, but they are not plugins. As I’m sure you know, they are defined in the audio connections. If you make a change there, that change will affect all instances of the external fx and there are no presets to make it easy to recall settings for different outboard gear. The whole point of this thread is: that design is rather inconvenient.
Other DAWs use a more rational scheme where it is truly an insert plugin. This is both simpler and more flexible.