Steinberg/Yamaha partnership RogerLinn Design - new LinnStrument w/ Integration in Groove Agent, Halion, Cubase

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Doubt it but pretty sure someone could write some kind of scripted code for it to make it so, though it would probably need constant updating as and when NI updated

Yeah that’s pretty much my feature request - automatic plug and play integration. pad colours relay to controller lights, quick control encoders, kit mute/solo’ing, pattern/transport control

I’d be intrigued to see what kind of offering stein and yam could offer in this field especially compared to maschine mklll or the Mikro which is a super cool little controller. But I’d be surprised if it would make much of a revenue return for them so I dare say they wouldn’t invest too many resources into developing one but you never know.

The thing about GA 5 i believe is that because it is bundled with cubase people kinda take it for granted. And just assume there are better alternatives since NI akai have been in the game for so long and steinberg aren’t renowned sampler connoisseurs. But the irony is that groove agent is actually amazing. Whenever people diss it I always think I bet they haven’t really properly seen what it can do.

Also steinberg don’t do themselves any favours with the UI design what with the tiny buttons to press etc. If they reskinned GA to make it more contemporary looking and easier to navigate it would be such a huge pull to their platform if they marketed it more, rather than the current seemingly buried diamond in the rough that you come across by chance.

They simply need to reskin, get some top tier producer name attachment to design fresh new packs and market it right and it will appeal a little more to the ableton crowd. Ableton are currently eating into Cubase’s returns it seems (though I don’t have supporting figures to prove so I could be wrong). Maybe a dedicated hardware controller alongside a slick new reskin could also appeal to an ableton crowd. (I freaking love cubase I think it’s amazing)

I agree, Groove Agent 5 is radical, I’ve been building my own sample library the past year and have created so many sounds and combinations, and ‘grooves’ I wouldn’t have normally. The integration is great.

But you definitely touched on something - Ableton has Push, and not only do they have Push but they have Novation developing 3rd party, borderline exclusively for Ableton.

This is definitely a significant dark spot in Steinbergs offerings/exclusive 3rd party hardware development for Cubase and it’s an important thing because it’s sort of a music genre-flag for people… “Electronic music hello over here!”, “hip-hop, yo yo yo over here!”.

And apart from any particular genre, it’s just a handy thing to have - even if you’re doing sound design, designing menu buttons for a video game. I have a simple Korg PadKontrol which as rudimentary as it gets but it’s so handy and gets used all the time. I just needed decently responsive nice feeling pads and a mapping editor and it provides that. Lots of work getting done with it.

I’m not big enough of a NI user to warrant getting Machine. I use three of their products (Absynth, Kontakt, Reaktor) and don’t really see a need for machine, it’s sort of become an all in one product thing and I mostly create all of my own drum sounds.

Steinberg could easily sell more units if they included Groove Agent Pro or at decreased price with a good quality controller. sweeten the deal.

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You might find this post interesting if you haven’t seen it. A combination of the two ideas I wonder?

Suggestion: An Updated Control Hardware

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You might find this post interesting if you haven’t seen it. A combination of the two ideas I wonder?
Suggestion: An Updated Control Hardware - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

That’s very cool, but I would keep them as separate products. If something breaks, you don’t lose both things.

And also, people always want to play on my drumpads but they can stay the f away from my DAW controller - certainly wouldn’t want them messing with it. Also, if the drumpads are being performed on, don’t really want to have to use it to navigate the DAW at the same time anyways.