Can I get some advice or recommendations on something to work within or well with Cubase?
Spectralayers PRO …not any stripped-down version…must say “Pro” if you want full demix capability.
DO also experiment with trial versions of other brands.
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The SpectraLayers version that comes with Cubase Pro lets you separate vocals. For more options, you’ll need the Pro version.
Glad to know Steinberg has this, downloaded trial of Pro. thanks.
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Outside Cubase - moises.ai - a separate website - does a pretty good job, in my opinion
The new Mk3 Maschine Software has a remarkably good separation feature. Very clean - I’m guessing taken from the RX family which is now part of NI.
Free, no internet required for use, additional models to download, good support on discord
I am wondering if this is the one I downloaded before, and got nowhere when I tried to email for help and then on a forum about it that didn’t answer.
I downloaded this today, and in the same situation, as the model was to remove vocal and there was no vocal so it really did nothing. How do I get the model to separate instruments? Is there more to it than this one window, as I just had to go to the file manager to see that there are now 2 new files, one instrumental and the other vocal (52M of nothing). The Spectralayer I tried had a lot more to it, working with the layers, it seemed, though the separation maybe wasn’t so great and why I want to compare.
There are a few things you have to understand-
All of the demix programs out there…paid or otherwise…have underlying engines of code inside that emanate from (mostly) open-source geek-nerd communities (and I say that with a friendly tone.).
There is a tremendous amount of code being worked on by hundreds of different github etc non-commercial groups of guys. Some spleeter…some demucs…some other spinoff code.
These “guys” often get together in subgroup groups to take a bit of code to specifically tackle…
say…“let’s see if we can program code to automatically remove all the A# notes any time we feed a hammond B3 chord sample in”.
Other guys work on…“let’s see if we can get better extractions of kazoos from mixed kazoo/tuba recordings”.
About six years ago, the biggie for MOST geek-nerd-code guys was “let’s get better at extracting lead vocals off a mixed track”.
Well, circa 2025…vocal demix is now sorta old school.
Spleeter, demucs, variants etc can now mostly DO vocal-demix pretty well. Although there are still coder-guys among the masses who are personally in to tweaking code to get even better at just vocals.
So…Ultimate Vocal Remover…ver5. I believe that’s what you’re referring to right?
The github etc guys who maintain that one are ONLY into getting better & better at vocal demix. Hey…that’s what jazzes those guys. They don’t CARE about bass guitars or snare drums. .They’re into “lead vocal”.
Hence…no other presets. Nada. None.
Which is probably why they all ignore you on their forums 
It’s like you walked in to a CVS drug pharmacy window and asked to order a pepperoni pizza
After all, it’s not like they make money from their coding at uvr. It’s a club. Not a storefront.
Now…Spectralayers. I don’t presume to speak for Robin but…he gathers all kinds of thousands of lines of cutting-edge code, tweaks it to do an approach that fits his image of what he wants Spectralayers to do…which…is a more broad-scope demix set of tools under the gui.
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Very interesting, thanks for that perspective, @DosWasBest !
Would you happen to know the “here’s the best of the best” apps for separating:
- Lead Vox from Background Harmony Vox?
- Bass Guitar from mix?
- Piano/Keys from mix?
- Etc.?
(If these uber-specific tools even exist!)
BTW - I use Spectralayers Pro for separating (using the Eagle’s “Best of My Love”, for example, Remastered version found on youtube):
- All voices from the rest of the mix - very good
- Lead Vox from Background voices - not so good
- Background voices as a group into individual background voices - essentially not usable.
I’m positive results from any of these programs depend on how the original track was mixed … this is the only one I’ve tried to do all these things on.
Very true. Hence, you have to experiment with different programs, even on a song-to-song basis.
By the way…you posted a “remix” of an Eagles recording on Youtube? The entire length recording? Man, I don’t think Irving Azoff’s company is gonna be happy about that if they find out…imo.
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Nah, just letting people know what track I used to test SpectraLayers Pro 11 out. No remixing done by me!
So before I pay $299 for Spectralayers Pro, are there any recommendations for other stem software to separate instrumental tracks? I’d like to compare before commiting to what I got with the trial, as I really had to do a lot more moving of parts of layers with that.
Take a trial of RipX DAW:
I’ve found it pretty good - very detailed if you want to go deep. However, I’ve never tried to separate Vocals from BGVs … that’s a pretty stern test for any system.
What about the full Melodyne? You can mess around with polyphonic chords and such?
I would like that. SpectraLayers has an algorithm for that, but it seems like it’s hard to do