I would also recommend to write the automation in real-time by using the Fader or even better any HW controller.
If you do lots of cuts and this kind of edits, you could consider to use the Direct Offline Process (DOP). You can make own presets (like +3dB and -3dB, for example), then you can assign the Key Commands to these 2 presets and then just to call the +3dB or -3dB preset by pressing the Key Command. This is, how the movie sound engineers in the postproduction work.
It sounds like you should be using event based automation rather than mixer automation. You can see the waveform change with your edits.
I use event based far more than mixer automation.
One thing I often do is crank up the gain of the entire file before I do any cutting and then enter an event volume line about half way down. This gives me volume and headroom that I didn’t have when I started.
You can’t see values measured in decibels because the event volume changes are relative. But it’s very intuitive.
I also prefer to nest all my audio in PARTS for this reason, among others.
I think ‘Trim’ tool you are talking about is F6 draw tool (pencil)…?
I love using that tool for de-gaining (reducing) pre- volume! yes I think I am talking about trim tool?
I really wish, that ‘pre’ drawing pencil tool could be even more awesome if it could do ‘plus’ volume…?
I feel like, fader on the very last, of the chain, volume automation line could be more informatic(?)…? haha I hope I deliver my point well but, yeah like I cannot know how much gain was made without checking / clicking on the dots u know?
Actually I do have fader units but um, maybe I am listing some of the points which could be upgraded (On protools there shows gains in dB value if I am correct…?)
Or, maybe my volume automation orders are messed up! lol
I am demanding something pointless or not so helpful…
You would see the source (pre-automation) waveform as the background of the automation curve. But you wouldn’t see the resulting waveform any other way, but using the Audio event based automation, or the Direct Offline Process.
Switch to the Draw tool in the Project window. Once you hover over the Audio event, the pencil tool with the line appears. Once you click the Audio Event, the node appears. The line is blue and the node is green. This is the Audio Event based automation.
The waveform is taken from the source audio file. The only exception is, if you use Direct Offline Processes, then the waveform is taken from the temp audio file, which sits in the Edit folder; or if you use the event based Volume automation.
The Insert effects are processed in realtime. Therefore it’s not possible, the waveform would display its form after the Inserts.
Yes yes… it makes total sense to me. I think I was talking without knowing logically. I think the only way is to try out direct offline and so Cubase makes its temp audio files so I get to see the after-processed Waveforms.