Subtitle and Arranger

I am once again hitting my head against the wall trying to figure out how to do yet another thing that should be on by default: How to display subtitle and arranger in the full score and parts.

I think that post was a bit rude. (Post has been edited since)

You need to make sure the tokens for those two items are in the relevant text boxes in Engrave mode. e.g. {@projectarranger@} And, obviously you need to have data in those fields in the Project Information dialog so that there is something to display.

Does this help at all?

…and to slightly build on Daniel’s point, it’s sensible to edit the Page Templates to include those tokens, as adding them to individual pages within Engrave mode won’t propagate them to other layouts in your project.

Add a text frame in the Page Templates, with the relevant Tokens, which you can then fill in in Project Info.

Not every work is an arrangement, nor has a subtitle.

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Using my discretion as moderator for the forum, I’ve edited the original post to remove the unnecessary profanity.

It would be good for Dorico to have more options for what information should appear in page templates by default, and this is something we will add in future versions.

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A potential issue here is that “by default” to please one group you would have to add things… that another group will then have to remove.

I almost never use “Lyricist”, for example. Nor “Arranger”. I’m certain there are others for whom “Dedication” is not necessary by default (while it’s almost 100% included in my work.)

The only thing I see is a slightly more “obvious” way of discovering where to enter this information?

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I would like see some kind of intelligent page formatting: only when there is information in the project info, the coresponing line for e.g. the Arranger will be added.

Some of the key concepts involved in getting additional information onto your pages (like subtitles, dedications etc) are covered in this recent Discover Dorico session:

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Thanks Lillie for taking the trouble to insert these super-useful links. A
picture (video) tells a thousand words! Appreciated.

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Is there a way to make the default page layout for score and parts be with the orchestrator or lyricist or whatever secondary info one wants? I have been doing it for almost every score for the last year as I often need to add in secondary information, and each time I spend about 5 minutes doing it along with a couple other page layout tweaks I like. I’m ready to make it my default…

You can create and export page template sets which you can then import into any project. You can also save project templates which include your custom page templates, and base new projects on those templates. And you can use the Library Manager to directly copy page templates from one project file to another.

If you want to make your templates the default for any new project, here’s a forum post which explains the steps:

Unfortunately, you can’t yet set things up so that you have a choice of page template sets available in a new empty project – Dorico will only show the ones called Default Full Score and Default Part.

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THanks, I successfully exported/imported two template sets (part and score). I don’t really understand the process even after watching a video (with the outdated term “master sets”) and reading the documentation. But trial and error seems to have gotten me somewhere!

Once you’ve exported them, you can import them into other projects, and then you can assign them to layouts (either in Engrave mode or in Layout Options > Page Setup > Page Template).