Suggestion: double-tap duration gets broken by note entry

A small change request for double-tapping for dotted notes. I’m encountering this error constantly. Would it be possible to set the double-tap so it’s “broken” by the inputting of a note via MIDI? That is, 5 [note] 5 [note] 5 [note] 5 would always return eighths, no matter how quickly the keys were pressed.

That would fix my issue with unintended dotted notes, and perhaps others’ as well. Right or wrong, I have a habit of re-striking a duration number before entering a note, and if I move quickly enough, I’m triggering the dot. Thanks.

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dan, can’t you advance like this?
5 [note] [note] [note] [note]

Yes of course, that’s the proper way. I’m admitting I have a firmly established habit of re-striking the duration key before each MIDI note press, and I’ve seen other users say the same.

I am just guessing, is this because of switching from Finale?

Probably. It’s totally ingrained now.

Hopefully you don’t use “5” as part of your passwords - in case the key is giving up early :wink:

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I totally agree that any other form of “input” should break the double-tap recognition, be it from the keyboard or the keyboard.

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Or have a time limit between double-taps, say … uh… 1 second?

No good, I think. Experienced users would be frustrated by that time limitation.

Double-click and key-repeat time intervals are well established system UI parameters on both Mac and Windows. Dorico should follow the user’s double-click interval for this type of keystroke if at all possible, and in addition what Estigy said.

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Double tapping to specify a dotted note duration doesn’t always work for me. Sometimes I have to do “tripple” tapping. (for example pressing 5 for eight notes three times)
Does anyone experience this?

@hpta Yes. Tonight I discovered it anew, that with note input, randomly the dot doesn’t appear with double tapping, or actualy I must say: randomly it does appear. After a lot of taps, suddenly one tap is a hit. Something is not working properly here, that’s for sure.
However, when I start a new file, everything works as expected…
But when I open the file I was working on after that, the problem appears again. It looks like it has to do with the size of the file.
My file is a symphony orchestra with a lot of staffs with independent playing voice playback and sometimes many voices (especially the strings). I hope there will be a solution for this.

I found a solution for the tap problem in the orchestra file, that I mentioned in the last message. When I am in note input mode and tap fast 3 times on a note key (e.g. on the ‘4’ of the numeric keyboard), the dotted note appears in approximately a second.

Problem solved in Dorico 5.1.5 !

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Is there any way to disable this double-tap-to-enter-dot feature? I use an Arturia Keylab 88 mkII, and I’ve mapped the drum pads to set the various durations by sending a CC message like CC 52 and then adding that as a midi control for “set note duration: quarter note” in Dorico.

This used to work a few versions ago, but now I get a dot since releasing the pad is sending a duplicate CC message. I haven’t figured out how to disable this double-message in Arturia’s software, so it would be nice if Dorico didn’t treat this as a double-tap dot. Right now I have to hold down the pad button for >= 0.5 seconds to avoid the dot, which isn’t fun.

There is no way to disable this at present, I’m afraid.

Thanks Daniel for the quick response! I fought with this some more and found a “toggle” mode in the Arturia midi setup, which seems to fix it and only sends a single CC message each time. It does toggle the LEDs on the pads to turn off or on on each click, but I can live with that.