Superimposition of staves with time signatures+bar lines and free staves

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Hi everyone,

i’m trying to superimpose traditional meter notation and free meter notation, and it works until a time signature occors. then barlines and rests reappear. (see pic)

Is there a way to solve that?

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Welcome to the forum @francois.sarhan,

Have you entered the 5/8 at bar 4 (and the following one) as a local (independent) time signature (i.e. by closing the popover with Alt+Enter)?

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Hi Charles, thanks for answering so quickly!

no i didn’t enter it as an independent time signature.

i’ll do that asap!

best

f

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Hi charles, (and all!)

i have here 2 questions.

I didn’t solve the situation above, even when i change the staves above as “independent time signaure”.

The reason might be (i suppose) that i ADDED the staff that i want free later, so even if i change all the time changes of the other staves as “independent time signatures” it somehow still keeps barlines, and rests on my free staff.

Is there a way to automatize that, ie ask ALL the staves to have independent time signatures at once, and one bar ALL time signatures free?

The file is imported from XML is it a reason?

Second question: again i import from Finale, via XML, and when i export my dorico reworked score (previously finale →XML) into midi (to open it with Logic for instance) the midifile is empty.

I opened this midifile back in Dorico to see if it was a logic audio problem, but no, Dorico also cannot open it, and proposes me an empty new block.

Any clue?

thanks in advance!

best regards

françois

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Francois, everything is reversible in Dorico.
So you can delete all time signatures and re-input them.
First: delete them all,
then: start the piece with an open meter time signature (this would be global),
then: input your local 5/8 time signature exactly where you want it.
All underlying music will not change, just the way Dorico is displaying it.

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Adding to @k_b’s suggestion:

If the time signatures are independent in the staves where they need to appear, then they must also be independent in the remaining (free) staff. So depending on what you did, you might simply need to delete the time signatures[1] from that “free” staff while keeping the others.

Maybe first check if you don’t have the Silence Playback Template.
Go to Play (the menu, not the mode)>Playback Template. If it’s set to Silence, choose another one (e.g. Auto).

  1. or the signposts, since it looks that the TS are hidden in this staff ↩︎

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thanks a lot!

I ll check the time signature problem, at the moment i checked the playback template and it was already on auto.

i selected it again, then exported as midi file and the midifile is still empty.

i join you here the document, in case it helps.

thanks in advance!

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