Supervision VU, how to change reference levels?

Can “0” VU be calibrated to different digital reference levels? How can we change reference levels in Supervision VU?

With the test oscillator set to 1000Hz, -6db level (or other levels -18, -12, etc) routed into the VU meter. Can the VU be calibrated to read “0 db” not -6db ?

Any thoughts, Thanks.

I guess scale and offset together define where your reference is.

Thank you st10ss, much appreciated but not the solution.

Offset only activates when dbFS mode is selected and then only 3 fixed offsets are available -18, -20 -24 db. This is not helpful. What would be helpful is if when in VU mode the Offset was activated and you could type in your own offset. FEATURE REQUEST? like other VU plugins can.

PSP makes a great VU, I loved it, but it is not vst3 yet. Waves makes an ok VU but Wave authorization blows up Nuendo when login in. So I have removed all Waves plugins. completely. Supervision should be perfect but I see no way to offset the calibration in VU mode. Hopefully I am missing a setting that will solve it. What am I missing? Thanks

If I’m not mistaken, for this you must use the “internal” scale, then you can setup the parameters freely.

Thank you Henrique, very good idea but unfortunately “Internal” is not a traditional VU meter. “internal” seems to be a way of setting a digital meter with a VU look. Not anything like an analog 4" Simpson VU meter like I’ve used for 40 years. The PSP VU triple meter was perfect in this regards with perfect ballistics that match my analog Simpsons. PSP is not vst3, Waves with login issues. It’s a shame Supervision does not emulate the real thing. They should not call it a VU. I hope I am wrong.

Thanks for the comment.

But isn’t the ballistics defined by the “meter type” field, and not the “scale” field?

If it really doesn’t behave as a VU no matter the scale, as long as the VU meter mode is selected, I believe this is a bug that should be reported to steinberg.
Let’s hope it is a bug!

TBH, VU metering isn’t possible in the digital domain.
Voltage Units are non-existent. Everything would be an emulation of the original.

Well yeah, but that is irrelevant. No one is talking about if the VU is real or not, but if it behaves as a real one.

Henrique, I agree. I hope it is a bug to be corrected. Supervision VU (Volume Units) appears to be inaccurate.

IMHO, if a plugin is labeled “VU meter” the ballistics should emulate a 4" analog Simpson VU meter. The VU meter “0dB reference level” should be user adjustable to any digital test tone level, including -20, -18, -16, -14, -12, -9, -6, -3 dB. or anywhere in between and below.

The real one measures something that hasn’t that much to do with the real audio signal.
Especially in the digital domain. It’s just an estimation.

SuperVision has more tools to offer that are much more true and reliable.
So why should we really care about a VU meter?

Why VU meters? good question.
If you have been riding gain on VU meters for over 40 years you would know.

Digital meters are also very valuable tools. A must have. VU meters are a better measurement of what you actually hear.

My man, don’t devalue other users needs just because you don’t share them.

@Jim_Fox , please tag your post with the “issue” tag, so SB can ackowledge this bug.

Please pardon me. Thought I was answering his question, didn’t know I was disrespectful.

I do not know how to change this topic to an issue. Wish I knew.
Thanks.

Oh no, I was talking to st10ss! please see that I was replying to his post, but without quotes. Sorry for the confusion.

The part adressed to you was only the post tag part.