Playing duets with a friend I realised he had created “turnover sections” in his part. Each contained a few bars overlap so he could see what was coming before he turned the page.
This was all done physically with real paper and bits of glue.
Can we make parts like this directly out of Dorico?
Its even more important if you’re using an electronic music stand because, you can’t resort to physical pots of glue. Obviously the length of the turnover depends upon the time signature and tempo but typically a couple of bars overlap would remove much extra stress in “performing” the page turn. We’d expect the overlap length to be user-defined.
(The PDF print must clearly identify duplicated turnover passages but some graphic, such as solid black bar above and or below the staff , might well be sufficient).
We might not need so many turn over passages if electronic music stands worked better. Very obviously the page should turn when you lift your foot on the pedal not when you put it down. As it is today “foot down” turns. So at the critical turning point you’re stressed out searching for the pedal with your foot while also remembering to play. It’s tragic seeing ruined performances when people accidentally kick the pedal out of the way!
If it turned on the “up foot event” you would simply put your foot down many seconds before you need to turn and then lift your foot for that magic moment.
It seems the current ‘pedal turn standard’ doesn’t define “up foot” events. But if anyone reading this has a contact with the folks who manufacture page turning pedals this is a golden opportunity for them to sell a new pair of pedals to every performing musician.
I’ve only used Forscore on an iPad, but i guess other score-readers may have a similar function.
In Forscore you can turn “half” pages. That may help you in the situation you describe, althought you would have to press the pedal to change the page more often (so the chance of accidentaly press/hit the wrong place will be also higher).
Anyway you may want to take a look at that option.
Good suggestion. I’ve used MobileSheets which also has half pages, but I find in the end (as you note!) you’re simply searching for that foot pedal with your foot and pressing it twice as often.
If you know a score well the electronic page turner is quite good. But if the score something you only know slightly it can be shocking to turn a page and discover a virtuosic passage that you would have liked to have been preparing for.
I said years ago the ideal solution for this is to have the app listen and make the page turn for you at a user-defined distance from the end of the page. Yeah, I know this is probably very difficult, but with the current state of silicon and AI, I’d think it’s doable, even in a large ensemble setting.
I have an app on my iPad for use with my teleprompter. (I create videos for my day job} the iPad has a mic plugged in and it listens to what you say and matches it up with the text in the script As you talk the text scrolls up. If you stop talking the page stops moving
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Can you send me the name of the app via private message (since this is a bit off topic)? I find I may need a teleprompter in the coming year. Thanks.
Well ‘best of luck’ with the classic repeat pattern in the Minuet & Trio!
Unfortunately its all my fault we got sidetracked. I guess the answer to major part of my question – can we get turnover cue’s in PDF’s? is no we cannot.
Indeed – if you did have a piece with two identical bars that happened to occur at a page turn, it could be a recipe for disaster!
It might be possible to create something using more than one Music Frame on the page; possibly with the repeated bits as separate Flows or Players – but it would require a lot of effort.
and bits of glue.
can we get turnover cue’s in PDF’s? is no 
we cannot.