Swing and off-beat pickup bars

Is it the intention of the design for a project that is set to swing and has a pickup bar that does not start on the beat to not swing until the first full bar? Because that is what happens for instance with meter set to 4/4,1.5.

If I specify either 4/4,1 or 4/4,2 then it works as expected.

I’d say that it’s not strictly intentional, but the swing feature does currently operate only on whole quarter (crotchet) beats. We’d need to extend it to work for those kinds of pick-ups – I’ll add this to our backlog.

Thanks.

I ran into the same problem today. Started my project with meter set to 4/4,1.5 and inserted 3 eighths notes in the pick-up bar and a half note in bar 1. Then I tried to use the shift+t swing options and global playback options to set swing, but it played straight. I thought I might do something wrong but the version history of Dorico 2.1 confirmed I’d done it right and it should playback fine. Only then I tried filling the next bars with eighths notes which surprisingly worked!
Glad to have found the workaround with 4/4,2 for now.

Hi! Seems like an old problem but I ran into it today with Dorico 5.1 and it still doesn’t work properly - the pickup is played straight.
Any ideas on when this is going to be in an update?

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I’m afraid I can’t say for sure when this will be addressed. It remains on our backlog.

Having the same issue (current version: Dorico 6.0.10). I have written an off-beat pickup bar (4/4,2.5), the first 8th note is treated like an on-beat 8th-note and the last two 8th-notes (or at least the last 8th-note) sound like they are rushing i.e. they do not swing.
When will this problem be fixed? Thanks in advance!

Welcome to the forum, @dkaid. I’m afraid we cannot provide specific information about when particular problems will be fixed. But this remains on our backlog for future attention.

Hi @dkaid, in this case you can just add an eight rest, before the music starts * (you pick-up measure will then be 4/4,3). And apply the swing start there. You can then apply the Remove Rest command from that rest, and possibly adjust the beginning note spacing in Engrave mode.

Dorico file example:

swing vs upbeat.dorico (1.5 MB)


(*) To add an eight rest to your pick-up bar,

  • activate Insert Mode (Global Adjustment of current bar),
  • select the first note
  • press Enter to activate the caret
  • press 5 (not necessary if the first note is an eight note) , (comma) C (or any other pitch letter), and ESC to leave note input.
  • deactivate insert mode!
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