Looking at the AXR4 manual page 24 (copy below) it seems to say you should be able to use the CH select key on the input to bring up a menu where you can select Analog settings for the channel.
I don’t see an Analog Setting menu item so cannot get to to an option to toggle the front inputs from their default of Mic In. I want to feed a line in via a TS cable, but the gain comes up on the meters as too hot (Presumably because the ports are stuck at mic level).
Anyone have any pointers on how to get to the Analog setting menu item so I can set the channels correctly or whether theres another way to feed those input a line level signal?
When you insert an XLR cable in the front then the input will automatically be MIC level. When you insert a TRS cable then the input automatically switches to line level. You don’t have to change anything in the menus - and there is no option to change it in the menus, because the switch happens automatically depending what cable you insert.
So is the manual p24 incorrect? Shouldn’t it be amended as it’s supposed to tell users how to do things correctly. I can’t see the option referenced under point 5 page24 Analog select. As I can’t see it I can’t select it. The same menu is displayed regardless of whether I’m plugging in an XLR or TRS cable. XLR and TRS cables can both carry line and mic. I know I’m inputting line level on the TRS and it’s too hot, but all I see are mic level adjustments between +15db and +68db being offered. These are not relevant as I’m inputting a line level on a TRS cable. That’s why I’m wondering what others see in the menu as referenced by p24 instructions points 1 - 6. Trying to determine if my AXR4 has a fault.
Do you see what the options the manual is saying should be visible in the channel menu at point 5 page 24 or am I misreading it?
Sorry for late reply, David. I don’t know whether the manual is up to date or not, but here’s a video I recorded of what I can see in the menu…
It seems there is no longer a menu listing ‘Analog Setup’ and ‘Silk’ as two seperate options. Instead those 2 sub-menus have been combined into 1 menu, which you’re taken to immediately after selecting a channel.
Just had a look at current manual. Yeah it seems it’s a little out of date. But the AXR4 never gave an option to select between mic or line. It always happend automatically depending on what you plugged in the front.
Seems they just consolidated those 2 sub-menus into 1 menu.
Clearly despite the fact you can input line level to Ch1-4 via TRS or if you so choose XLR there are no clear settings for indicating line level on those channels as the manual indicates.
Re line levels its clearly all about understanding the different source signal levels and playing with the Pad and if necessary HiZ on a default Mic level signal which the menus are working with ie adding several db of gain to mic level to get up to a line signal level equivalent.
The Pad would normally knock around 20db off a line level but may be defeated by a hot input line signal.
Line levels provided on XLR cable eg from some Guitar modellers will obviously blind side the TRS v XLR connector assumptions. So careful gain staging needed.
“there are no clear settings for indicating line level on those channels as the manual indicates” …from your screenshot of the manual I don’t see where it indicates that? I think we’re interpreting that page differently.
As for the rest of your comment, we seem to approach gain-staging very differently. I would personally never engage a pad on anything but a MIC level signal.
The only time I might use the HI-Z is when plugging my electric guitar directly into the AXR4, no pedals or amp in the signal path. I never engage HI-Z on a Mic level signal, either on the AXR4 or any other interface. Hi-Z inputs are designed for high-impedance instruments like guitars and basses, not the low-impedance signals of most microphones.
I admittedly don’t have much experience with guitar modellers, apart from the old Avid Eleven… which modeller are you using that provides a line level on an XLR output? That sounds strange to me! I’d investigate that more.
Normally, when I record guitar and bass using the GT1000 Core, I get better results with more defined bass with the pad turned on. It’s important to test recording with the pad pressed down and with a higher gain.
Bit surprised at your comment regards using pad on a mic level signal. Given a mic level signal is already the lowest signal you only ever boost that signal not cut it. I think we may be at cross purposes in some of our terminology.
Id guess that the GT1000 like a lot of guitar modellers sends out a line level signals. Therefore use of a pad on the receiving device may be needed to lower it as too hot a signal tends to create unwanted distortion. so it would sound better with pad on if signal level between output and input are not matched (ie overloading the input).
Hi Davi, that’s exactly what you described. Maybe the translation from my language to English wasn’t adequate. In short: On the GT1000 core’s line signal, which has a high output, I always use the pad pressed to reduce the input gain. Obviously, I need to adjust it by increasing the preamp gain to get the signal at the best input level. The fact is that, at least on the AXR4, I think that guitar and bass have clearer bass and less exaggerated treble. Thanks for sharing. Cheers. Channel 1 = mic Ch 2 = bass/guitar mono Ch3/4 = bass/guitar stereo. Mic = Canon cable. gt1000 core with trs cable in ch2 and ch3/4 trs subout stereo.
