Yup, I noticed this as well.
Also, has anyone else found an issue with playback syncing between Dorico and SynthV? SV does not in my instance want to follow the host properly, i.e. doesnāt rewind to bar 1, instead playing from bar 9 or somethingā¦
EDIT: I found the solution: SynthV does NOT deal well with a pre-roll set in Dorico! The team might want to look into this⦠![]()
Repro: Set a pre-roll of any amountā¦
Cheers,
Benji
What does that mean (in Dorico terminology)?
Yes I have found this too with Synth V starting immediately and playing already a few measures in, and then Dorico starting from the beginning, several seconds later. Iām on Windows 11 and find that the latest Beta release also plays havoc with Dorico as it causes the Audio engine to crash when trying to scan it. It takes several times of opening and closing Dorico to even get Dorico to start with the Audio engine timing out several times before I can get Dorico to finally open.
I have. I actually opened a thread about it here SynthV beta Bug - #3 by Pete_the_Musician
⦠and suggested a workaround.
I havenāt tried with preroll.
My suspicion is that the cause is that there used to be an earlier flow in your piece which was then deleted. (Or perhaps youāre actually not using flow 1?)
No, there wasnāt another flow, but thanks for thinking along! Plus, the issue clears immediately when removing the pre-roll.
AFAIK, Dorico doesnāt yet (completely?) output tempo changes to VSTs, so that might be connected.
B.
Same here, it took several times hitting āwait longerā for it to startā¦
what it specifically doesnāt do (as I understand it) is manage beat-related effects, which in the VST are locked to the DAWās tempo. Iām not clear whether SynthV is staying in sync or not, because Iāve imported a musicxml that didnāt stay in sync, and then after editing & re-exporting, it did stay in sync.
Only the initial tempo.
Correct, thanks for confirming!
Iāve fixed some ālaā problems by deleting and then re-entering the lyric - especially with tied notes. I think, if you attach a lyric to a quarter note, then add an eighth note and tie it to the quarter, you will get a la for the eighth - even though itās tied. If you tie the eighth to the quarter BEFORE adding the lyric (or deleting and re-adding the lyric), I believe it works correctly.
IMHO, of course!
Tom
Indeed, I also would consider that a big problemā¦. And there is another one; triplets are not appreciated by Syth-V; only the first note gets rendered.
EDIT: I found out the reason that triplets donāt get renderedā¦. Itās because of overlapping notes. After shortening the second note of the triplet, the triplet gets rendered. May I call this a bug in Dorico?
A nice surprise is that Ossiaās are getting imported, AND played back. So you can easily check alternative noteās ![]()
On different occasions, I was able to fix this by selecting the 2 notes and use āright-click/merge-noteā. I created a shortcut āmā for this. But as you write⦠still annoying.
I just tried Beta 2 using NotePerformer. The NP 1-second delay seems to need some tweaking as do tempo changes. Johnās video showed an NP realisation without the delay but I donāt think he mentioned how that was achieved. My experiment is much simpler, so I suspect thereās a flag somewhere but I canāt seem to find it
Any advice would be appreciated. I tried synchronising the clock but that was worse.
It seems that importing MusicXML isnāt as clean as importing MIDI. I did the same using MIDI and synchronisation was excellent.
I really was just a matter of time ā just bought Choir collection 2 ![]()
I was about to post the linkā¦. But you beat me to it
Sounds quite usefull allready! I will download the trials coming weekend.
Iām not convinced that the choir II actually adds anything ā initial experiments give me a more musical reproduction by simply taking one or two solo singers and multiplying the number of voices. There is also more control over the tone with something than the choirs.
Although MIDI seems to import the tempi unlike MusicXML, Iām finding MusicXML gives better results overall because MIDI makes frequent bizarre pronunciation errors which for some reason MusicXML doesnāt. Both echo the vocal lines with a soft piano in the background which Iāve yet to discover the reason for (perhaps someone could explain) but itās easily cured by simply not selecting the vocal lines for playback ā theyāll play back anyway unless muted.
I could actually imagine SynthV could be quite useful for proofing as the text is correctly synched to the music unlike with Wordbuilder *when you always have to start from the beginning) , though I still think that EWQL choirs actually sound more like real singers, despite the relative inaudibility of the words. And of course SynthV canāt do Latin, German, Italian French etc etc. Still, I guess weāre relatively early in this technology. .
Just another tool in the arsenal. I still sketch every choir piece with EW choirs āahsā.
