These three plugins (Mystic/Prologue/Spector) were discontinued on March 2022 since the version 12 of Cubase. They were discontinued due to technical problems.
My analytics:
We load SynthEngine.vst3 in Cubase 12, Cubase 13 and Cubase 14 and they are working like they did in all earlier versions. There are no technical problems at all.
The replacement for those plugins is suggested a TERA 3. But it is built for VST2. This is technical problem.
These three plugins, which don’t have any technical problems (I can prove it on all versions in which they are discontinued) already were built for VST3.
So where is the problem to make them bundled with Cubase 14 and licensed using Steinberg Licensing system?
I would like to buy TERA 3 (the same developer who mate those three plugins) since they are telling that it almost replaces these three plugins. But we are going away from VST2. And these three already was VST3. It’s more than strange.
And finally. We bought Cubase with these three plugins. It means that we have a license to use these three plugins. Right? Please consult your lawyer just to know our consumer rights
If you have a license for those plugins from an earlier version of Cubase, you can keep using them.
However they’re probably no longer supported, so if/when there is a technical problem, you’re on your own (plus maybe a little help from your fellow music makers in the forum here).
It’s common practice in the software industry for companies to discontinue products and transition users to newer versions or different products, often providing upgrade vouchers or other forms of compensation.
There are no vouchers, no transition, nor other forms of compensation for Mystic, Prologue and Spector plugins/instruments. Steinberg company didn’t offer any replacement for those plugins. Just discontinued in 2022.
There are plenty of examples in software industry where consumer is satisfied with transitioning. Bet in this case here we have a black hole.
You could search the forum to find the answer but I am not sure your question is meant this way.
Anyway, here is the TL;DR: Those plugins were made by a 3rd party. The plugins have the old copy protection scheme integrated into them. With the update from C11 to C12 and the new copy protection scheme the plugins needed to undergo this change as well. For one reason or another the developer of the plugins and Steinberg did not come to an agreement to do that.
I have read that all and I know almost everything. But as programmer I know why they didn’t update. As marketting specialist I understand more why this s**t happened.
BTW our customer rights are at lowest position if you understand me from this point. We pay for product and don’t know how long we will be able to use it. The same way Padshop can become unusable because almost everything is possible to reproduce with Halion. Also Retrologue seems needless because of mainstream of Halion. So be ready to lose them both!
For example there are very signifficant amount of customers who are happy with Cubase 8, 9, 10 and any other version that is available to run if dongle is inserted (I like Cubase 6). After eLicenser shutdown (2025) they will be able to run their beloved tool they bought until they reinstall computer or dongle becomes unusable (damaged). Where there are customer rights? Are those rights somewhere described? I will go and read to understand more why our rights are at the lowest position after special and financial realtionship between Steinberg and 3rd party developers.
Back in the 2016, when I bought Cubase 8, where was a disclaimer that I won’t be able to use some parts of whole product if ***** (whatever the reason)?
P.S. I just need to use tools what I have bought. That’s all. Okay, I can run them with dongle inserted, but if I see the next year as a year of changing computers, I don’t see any posibility to use those instruments.
