Tempo Points don't always move to the right when I Insert Silence

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Hi,

I hope you’re all doing great, and not getting overheated if you live where it’s on :fire:!

I’m having a problem along the lines of the subject, hoping someone here can help please :slight_smile:. In my Cubase 14 Pro project ( W10, C14 Pro 14.031, Build 337), Insert Silence doesn’t always move the tempo points to the right.

Here’s a repro (on my system at least):

I downloaded and opened the demo project, “Eight Good Reasons”.

Scenario One:

Then, in the Arranger Window, I set my L/R Locator positions one bar apart and placed them in the project prior to any tempo points that I had added to the Tempo Track* .

I applied “Edit > Range > Insert Silence”, and everything worked as expected, with all the markers and tempo points shifted right appropriately.

Scenario Two:

However :melting_face:: When I shifted the L/R Locator positions enough to the right so that they were anywhere after the first tempo point I had drawn in the Tempo Track, and then applied the same steps as above (“Edit > Range > Insert Silence”) - the Tempo Track remained unchanged, i.e., none of the tempo points after the Locator region moved, they behaved as if they were placed in a locked Tempo Track (I checked - the Tempo Track was unlocked). Again, all this was in the Arranger Window, not the Tempo Track Editor.

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas as to why Insert Silence won’t shift tempo points to the right when the L/R Locators are located as in Scenario Two above, please let me know, thank you very much!

*…The original demo project didn’t have a Tempo Track or Marker Track, so I drew in a few tempo points with the Draw Tool, and created a few Markers.

Thanks for your help and support, as always :slight_smile:

BTW - I posted this problem a few days ago, as a continuation to @Robert_G’s old thread, but @steve locked it without explanation, so I’m left guessing that maybe even though it’s the same question he wanted a new thread. I’m sure I’ll find out if I guessed wrong :grin: . I’m bringing this up to explain why I started a new thread on the same topic, and to give the link to that old thread, now locked, since it does have some helpful comments (it’s marked as solved, but as above, unfortunately the solution doesn’t work on my system reliably).

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Thanks again!

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Hi @alexis ,

which demo project is called “Eight Good Reasons”?

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Just to bring everybody up to speed (we exchanged some PMs after @steve closed the thread):

  • no such behaviour in Cubase 15.0.30
  • Process Bars is still something that can be tried as an alternative route
  • I’ve probably suggested to start with preferences disabled just to rule that one out (not sure if I did, though)

I will also check in C14 if I can reproduce this behaviour and get back to you.

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UPDATE: I can not reproduce this behaviour in C14. Everything works as expected.

Could you provide a short video, please? Always good to have a screenshot or in this case a video!

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Thank you, @Reco29 !

Just leaving for some travel today … vid will be forthcoming!

PS: It’s possibly I may have downloaded “Eight…” a long time ago, and it no longer appears as a demo project. Hopefully it’s not a left over from my trip to a parallel universe … I’m usually not that sloppy! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Got it!

The tempo points and marker names weren’t moving with “Insert Silence” because they were exactly on the bar line affected by the Insert Silence command.

When I nudge them over a bit before applying that command, everything works great.

(PS: @Reco29 - The Process Bar command I didn’t try yet because I’m now inserting a single beat here and there, not an entire bar. I suspect the behavior would be the same, but I’ll keep that in mind for the next time :slight_smile:. Thanks for the suggestion!)

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It should work with tempo nodes on the bar line as well:

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It does here. Or maybe I misread your post after all?

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Thanks for that illustration @Reco29 .

Like like making a vid is in my future after all!