The look of 13 pro vs 11 pro

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Hi there people. I just upgraded from Cubase 11 pro to Cubase 13 pro yesterday.

The upgrade went smoothly and everything works I think, hehe.

But I can’t get it to look like I want it to.

I hope there is something here that I have overlooked.

I run a three monitor setup.

In 11 I use the left monitor to open up plug-ins and vstis, the middle monitor for the project window and the right for the mixer.

It kind of works now too, but it does not look right.

In C 11 BOTH the project and the mixer window was detachable. Now only the mixer window is detachable.
WHY is this so?

I want to use my left monitor with Cubase background to open plugins/vsti’s, the middle monitor for the project window and the right monitor as my mixer.

To take away a feature like a detachable project window is to me wildly annoying. Why on earth take away such a simple feature that simply works?

I’ve been a customer since Cubase 3.5.1 and from time to time Steinberg does things like this. They just do “stuff” and tell nobody about it.

There was no mention of this is the upgrade notice, if they had mentioned it I would not have upgraded!

It is almost like I want my money back for the upgrade, I can do everything that I need to in C 11 PRO.

If there is a fix please let me know.

Kim, Cubase user since 1998.

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Because having a Cubase window with nothing in it was annoying and confusing.
I - for one - hated it and I’m glad they’ve fixed it.
But I understand your irritation :frowning:

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You can have VSTs open right on your desktop, so use that 3rd monitor for it. There is no need for a “Cubase window” to be in the background, is there?

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As I said, that window with “nothing” in it was important for me.
That window was where I edited my plugins/vsti’s without cluttering up the project and mixer window.

I really mean this Steinberg: bring this back in the next bug fix. It cant’ be more than 10 lines of code.

Then customers can decide themselves if they want to use this feature or not.

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Yes there is a need for it.
Because my desktop is cluttered with diverse icons and has a background picture. I don’t want that behind my my plugins/vsti’s I want a cool calm blue/grey/black background and no icons etc to distract me.

The feature was there since at least Cubase 7. So why take it away?
Worse still: no mention at all in the upgrade notice like: “we have changed the windows handling so you will have less choices now. We just made Cubase a little less tweakable for your pleasure” :wink:

It really is small things like this that contribute to making a program “pro” or not.

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Because a lot of customers were unhappy with the previous windows handling. There are topics here in the foum - you just need to search.

Oh, there was quite an announcement. You just didn’t see it.

Basically - you’re unlucky that this change affects you negatively. You are a minority. It is not a bug, it won’t be an option (because that’s technical overkill, its more than 10 lines of code) and it won’t come back.
I hope you can find a way to live with the new window handling.

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Why on earth were customers “unhappy” with a feature they did not have to use?
To have choices/alternatives is important, this is why Cubase has always been so great. To take them (choices/alternatives) away is just plain wrong.

Ok I may be in the minority here, but I am sure there are thousands of people using a three monitor setup and Cubase.
So why make music life harder for us by taking away a very simple and very usable feature?

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Because “this feature” was linked with some other “features”.
Search for “floating menu bar”.

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Oh my… Why not fix the floating menu bar issue then and make both parties happy.

And my point here is: you do not “fix” something by taking away what other customers use every day. You make alternatives.
This could be under preferences: “use old/new window handling”
As easy as that.

I think I am entitled to voice my irritation here, I’ve been a customer for a VERY long time.

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I don’t think this is Steinberg’s problem.

Few actually liked the previous system. The majority prefer the new.
Democracy at work.

Of course you are. As is every one else.

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How do you know this, are you a C# programmer for Steinberg?

I have gotten my way before with features etc in Cubase, and I see no reason not to voice my irritation about this.

I run a small but profitable studio, and I strongly dislike when features that I like/depend on is being taken away from me.

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Again: make alternatives. Do not take things away.

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You have that right, nobody denies you that.
I merely predicted your chances of getting a blank background screen back. Just ignore me if you don’t like my reply.

One thing is certain: Arguing with me will not bring that feature back.

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If they can code “make mixer window detachable”
They surely can code “make project window detachable” too

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I know, but you talked like you were “in the know”

I have voiced concerns/irritation over many things that Steinberg has done with Cubase since 1998 or so. And sometimes they have actually listened.

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This was a pretty significant piece of work to bring Cubase / Nuendo into line with proper windows handling and, as far as I can tell, it’s still a work in progress. The previous, rather arcane design had boxed the Steinberg developers in and they had to find a way out.
This is it and it’s highly unlikely they’re going back.

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Yep that is what people say… “it is windows compliant now”
Guess what? It isn’t since the mixer window is still detachable.

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And why should a program like Cubase HAVE to be compliant to standard microsoft windows handling?

Cubase is not frogging Word, Exel or Outlook. It is a professional program for composers. And a pro program for composers just might need a little more flexible window handling that an exel sheet.

Just saying

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Then maybe you should create a topic asking exactly for this blank background window and mark it as a feature-request.

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I am afraid you did not.

Normally I would link to the forum guide, how to tag a topic. But since you are a veteran I don’t need to do that.