Thick bar lines hiding time signature changes?!

I exported this Eb trumpet part from ScanScore into Dorico so I could transpose it. When I read it in Dorico there are a whole bunch of thick bar lines which I would like to convert into standard bar lines.

  1. I don’t know if there’s some easy way to do this without having to select each bar line individually?
  2. if I DO select the bar line and turn it into a standard bar line I get a signpost indicating a hidden time signature that I then have to delete manually.
    Does anybody know what this is and how to quickly and easily in some batch process to convert all thick lines into standard and not have all these hidden time signatures?

Rather than selecting the barlines and creating a normal barline on top of them, try deleting the thick barlines: that should “reveal” a normal barline underneath.

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Thanks Daniel, I did figure that out, I just wish I didn’t have to do each one individually. I know Music XML files aren’t perfect.

One approach is to open the musicxml file in a text editor and delete all occurrences of this block of three lines.


A normal barline is created automatically. When those three lines appear, it indicates that it will be a thick barline instead.

Be careful to not delete the following, which specifies a final barline (thin-thick).

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That’s an interesting idea. I checked my Music XML file and did find these lines… 370 of them! I decided to just do it as I was scanning through and checking for missing dynamics, accidentals, et. al. deleting from the XML file and then having to go through the score again afterwards would just be double the time suck.
@dspreadbury perhaps this could be a future feature update?

So you expect Dorico to take account of poorly formed xml files created by 3rd parties? Who’s to say those thick barlines were not intentional in the original?

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I don’t know what OS you are using or what text editors you have available, but I’m on Mac and use TextEdit (supplied with MacOS and fairly basic but very handy for tasks such as this). As part of its Find and Replace function it has the ability to Replace All. I copy the “offending” three lines, paste them into the Find field, type a space in the Replace field, then click on Replace All. Save the file. Job done!