Third-party instruments on Cubase. Use as midi effect (arpeggiator)

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Can someone please help me?
I’m using a software called Eternal Arps.
It’s an arpeggiator auto-generator.
I’m trying to use the sound source on a cuebase and connect it to other instrument software.
I don’t know how to do this.

I’ve read the manual, and I’ve also read all the threads on this forum about routing midi outputs, but nothing seems to help.
I have been struggling for about 3 hours.

How about I copy the original text of the manual, does anyone know what this means?

I don’t think there is such a thing as a midi out put in Cubase instrument tracks. Can someone please help me?

（Here’s the description)

  1. Load Eternal Arp VST: Load the Eternal Arp VST 3 version onto an instrument
    track. (No need to use the MFX version for Cubase users.)
  2. Load the Instrument: Load the instrument you wish to control on a second track.
  3. Configure MIDI Routing: Route the MIDI out of Eternal Arp to the instrument by
    changing the MIDI input of the second track to “Eternal Arp”.
  4. Arm the Eternal Arp Track: Arm the Eternal Arp track to receive MIDI from your
    controller and turn on monitoring for the controlled track.
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I think you are right and the manual is wrong. Furthermore I don’t see a way how a VSTi can influence another VSTi via MIDI.
It would need to be a MIDI plugin or a modulator in Cubase, not a VSTi.

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Thank you for your response.

I guess the manual was still wrong.

When you say you need Midipluguin, do you mean the Midiplugin that comes with Cubase can do this?

If so, it would be great if you could tell us how to do it.

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While there are a couple of arpeggiators included in Cubase I have no idea if they match or even come close to what Eternal Arps offers.
What I meant to say is that there is a file format for MIDI plugins and it is different to VST plugins. At some point Steinberg made this available to everybody as well, so anybody could have created MIDI plugins. I am not sure if it still is available nowadays. A MIDI plugin could be inserted on an Instrument track with ease and send its MIDI data to the instrument,

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I just took a look at the Scaler plugin. That runs as an instrument but creates a MIDI output. In this way the second instrument track can get its input from that plugin.

This is the way Eternal Arps should be programmed. It needs to create a MIDI output port.

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This is how it should work:

  1. Load an instrument track with the VST Instrument that you want to send Eternal Arp MIDI into.

  2. Load another instrument track with Eternal Arp VST.

  3. Select the instrument track that you wish to send Eternal Arp MIDI into. In the inspector view under “Routing” set the MIDI input to “External Arp” (There should be some kind of identifiable name in the MIDI inputs list).

  4. Enable record and monitor in on the instrument track so that it can receive MIDI from External Arp.

  5. Write some MIDI parts on the External Arp instrument track so it can start to process and output MIDI.

  6. Record the MIDI into the instrument track that is receiving the External Arp MIDI. Or record directly into Audio by routing the instrument track into a Audio Track.

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Thanks for the reply.

I actually know how to spit out the midi itself from the Eternal arps.

I wanted to connect the Eternal arps directly to another instrument track and listen to the results of the arpeggiator in real time.
The official manual explains how to do this.
(but you are right, the manual is incorrect)

It seems that the only way to do this is to extract the midi data from the Eternal arp and then go through the trouble.

Thank you for verifying this!

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Thanks for the reply.

I’ve been doing what you said all along.
I think it’s probably not possible.

Even if I turn on the monitor for the instrument track I want to export, the midi signal just goes from
I can’t get the midi signal to go from the instrument track to the Cubase track.

Cubase → Eternal arp → Instrument track.

I think it is impossible unless the Eternal arp software itself has an output setting item to specify the destination of the midi signal. However, I don’t see that functionality implemented at this time.

I am Japanese, so I don’t understand English very well, and I may be doing it wrong, but I’m not sure.

I think it is not possible to do this on Cubase.

If it is actually possible, I would appreciate it if you could post a video or something.

Thank you very much.

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I would like to encourage you to address the developer of the plugin to incorporate a MIDI output port. Please have a look at the Scaler plugin on what it should look like.
At the same time you might want to let them know that their instruction for Cubase is wrong - and since you are Japanese you might find a more diplomatic way of paraphrasing it.