This is why I got mad!

I had a look. Disabling the Amp Rack on the reggae guitar then renders the guitar correctly. Freezing the audio first misbehaves as well. It screws up in the same way as render. However moving the guitar to a MONO audio channel and rendering clears the problem.

Therefore I think that the issue is that the Amp Rack when placed in a stereo channel is mis-rendering.

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Thanks Parrotspain, Im getting similar results but I wonder why it plays fine during regular playback and only acts weird when we render. I think if we get that “pan to the left” effect when we render it should sound like that all the time once the Vst Amp is on the track. Unless I’m missing something.

No, I don’t think you’re missing anything. What is happening is that the right channel is silent I think.

This behaviour replicates here. It also chimes with my very first comment about mono plugs in stereo channels - although I wasn’t specifically referring to Amp Rack in that case. I think that I have usually used Amp Rack only in mono configuration and not had an issue, although it’s nagging me that I have seen this behaviour before.

Why it plays, but won’t render is definitely one for Steinberg’s wizards.

Yes, this does sound like it could be a bug with Amp Rack. Seems to render fine for me though (Stereo audio file on a stereo track). I’m on Windows 8.1 FYI.

I don’t play any instruments so I’m limited in what I can do with a track like this. Do you do produce? Play any instruments? Can you help make this track better? Im asking because this track is going to Stephen Marley and Spragga Benz and if they use it you will get producer credit which I don’t have to tell you the benefits of that. If you don’t want to no hard feelings.

Im this close to getting Stephen Marley to change his whole studio over to Cubase and leave protools behind making me Head Engineer if Steinberg would only fix issues like this I can make it probably make it happen. LOL!

My user name is quah on VST transit by the way if anyone wants to collab. Any genre any instruments any location just hit me up.

Might take you up on this, I’m not on VST transit yet, but I play reggae & ska bass :slight_smile: What’s your location BTW?

Brooklyn N.Y.

Re. Do I produce?

I am a keyboard player / producer, tending to specialise in mixing nowadays - I am not generally into collabs, but they’ll be many here who might want to join in.

I hope you can get on with your production now though albeit in real time. I’ll watch for Steinie’s comments with interest.

I already sent it and they love it so they will do the rest, but I have more productions we can collab on.

Brooklyn N.Y.

Whoops won’t be standing at your door for a while … :mrgreen:
Been in NY for the last time in 1993, haha longtime!

Hi onemidi,

I have just taken a quick look at your VST Connections screenshots and I think I know what the problem is…

Why are you using the control room if you are only using your internal sound card? You shouldn’t do that. You are exporting your Stereo Output bus whereas you haven’t even connected it to any port or to any device, which means that what you hear when you play back your Cubase project, is not the same as what you are exporting.

Turn the control room off, connect your stereo output in the VST Connections and play back again. You will then hear the same as your exported track and so you will be able to find out the issues in your routing.

Regards

Hi Louis,

your post confuses me to be honest. Not connecting the Output Stereo bus to any port is absolutely Standard when using the control room.

Could you explain why this could be the cause of the discussed issue?

Regards, Ernst

Agreed! Still, I don’t think it would do any harm to disable Control Room -it simplifies things and removes another possibility to introduce any setup errors.

Whaaaaat? I use the control room all the time. It is very convenient to be able to adjust my “listen dim levels”, for checking my mix in mono by hitting the stereo button right there, and plus Im on my laptop using my headphones a lot so when people talk to me and don’t have to keep hitting stop or take the headphones off I can just hit “Dim”. Even my click volume can be adjusted hasttle free according to how loud my surrounding is. Plus thats not even whats causing the issue, if you read a couple post back you will see we narrowed it down to the VST Amp Rack.

Whaaaaat?

You’re right, however for the user with simpler tasks there’s no need to use the complicated control room.

Yep! But Im not one of those users, I even have the Steinberg mr816csx that I use when Im home, it just so happen that it wasn’t plugged up when I took pics of my connections. I use the control room so much that if I stop using it now it would slow me down. Plus I would have to add a plugin into the already limited insert slots just to check my mix in mono.

Super hero JHP where are you? We figured it out, it was the VST Amp Rack this whole time. We need you man some people are on here talking crazy telling me I should turn off the control room even though thats not the cause of the problem. Can you check the VST Amp Rack and let me know what I need to change. To catch up just go to about the bottom of the first page.

Hi,
Strangely enough I couldnt repro the problem.
I am still investigating but dont worry i’m are on it. I’ll let you know what I find in this thread.

Why are you so sure its the VST Amp rack? Does the problem go away if you disable it? Or what exactly did you do?

Could you perhaps slim down the project to only the problematic guitar track(s) without any other VST’s and VSTis with only the problematic VST Amp rack inserted and upload it?

This will make it easier for me to investigate.

Thanks,
Gr,
JHP