In some projects I need to lock the timecode and the bars and beats together. I’ve tried every setting and looked at past forum entries, but it seems Nuendo has still no option to do this.
In my case: I have a Video with music, prod sound and fx that stay in tempo together. Start of the video is 01.00.00.00 but the first beat starts at 01.00.02.13.
1st issue: what I’d like to do is to lock beat 1.1.1.0 with TC 01.00.02.13 without moving the files in the timeline.
2nd issue: I want to keep this settings by importing my content in a mix session.
At the moment I had to move the content to the first bar, but even if I manage to solve the first issue I cannot solve the second one.
PLS help and PLS Steinberg give us this feature to freely move and lock TC and Bars and Beats together.
IMO you should have a second option: “Set timecode at cursor position” and “Set bars and beats at cursor position”, like you have two different rulers. And then a function like “lock rulers at cursor” to prevent timeline changes in a session.
This would also be an amazing help in 24 to 25 conversion, where you lock content at the start point in a 24 session and then timestretch it in a 25 session without moving the content or changing the start of the session
That isn’t that simple. The positions of beats and bars is tempo dependant. A change in musical tempo, will change the timeline positions for the beats.
You need to understand that beats and bars is no timeline at all.
But you must be able to define a starting point for the beats in the timecode itself. AKA you have to be able to lock a point in the timeline as you do with tempo automation.
Nope. This changes the TC, a function I use everyday. Note that by changing the TC it changed also the bar from 2 to 0, and that’s what I want to avoid.
I want to set my Bar 1.1.1.0 at TC 01.00.02.13 and it’s not possilble… This is a function every composer for post needs…
does this help? once you set the first bar to match whatever timecode you want. When you export Broadcast wav just set the timecode to match the first beat.
Yes that’s the only workaround I used with another project. However I have still material before beat starts, so I moved the mmaterial for editing to the beat and after Mix I moved everything back.
It’s a pain in the ass, so I hope my feat request will be noticed
@foobeats There may be a better way, but you can achieve what you need by juggling the ‘Time Offset’ and ‘Time Offset (Bars+Beats)’ in Project Setup, perhaps also needing subframes activated in Preferences for certain frame rates / tempi. Try the following:
manually place video and all events at 01:00:00:00:00.
using the range selection tool measure the distance (in frames and subframes) between the target timecode where bar 1 should be and the nearest whole bar division. This is the offset to be added or subtracted in the ‘Time Offset’ field
open the Project setup window. Enter the measured offset in the ‘Time Offset’ field and adjust bar offset as appropriate similar to the following (here it is 16 bars, assuming a project start time at 00:59:30:00:00, 120bpm, 25fps, target timecode for bar 1 at 01:00:02:13:00):
when asked, answer to keep project content at timecode positions
Here you are first applying a timecode offset (-13 frames) to make your target position at 01:00:02:13:00 in the project window correspond with a whole bar division at the chosen tempo, and then simultaneously applying a bar offset (16 bars) to make this bar division correspond with bar 1 (the bar offset will vary according to how many bars are present before the video start position which in turn depends upon the project start time and tempo).
But IMO your request is valid. This could be made easier if there was some kind of dedicated function.
Thanx. Yes I was trying also with the session prefs option and offset, but didn’t came across this detail. I will test it. But yes, we really need a simple option like “set bar at cursor position”. If you ca set tc or primary transport time you should be able also to set beats or in general the secondary transport time
Set TC start to 01:00:00:00 (one hour, like your video)
In Project Setup, add a 2 bar offset (below the TC offset).
Now you have two additional bars, -1 and 0.
Bar -1 is at TC 01:00:00:00 (1 hour) This will change but not to worry. Bars 0 and -1 are irrelevant. They are an extra space for the beginning of the video before bar 1.
Create a Marker Track
Create a new Marker at Bar 1 1 1 0
Place your Cursor at Bar 1 1 1 0
( Bar one currently should read TC 01:00:04:08:58 at 24 FPS )
Set TC at Cursor to 01:00:02:13 (one hour, two seconds, 13 frames)
The pop up window will appear:
“You have modified the timecode offset. Do you want to keep the project content at it’s timecode positions?”
VERY IMPORTANT TO CLICK NO.
Now you have BAR 1 1 1 0 exactly at TC 01:00:02:13:00 (one hour two seconds 13 frames)
Create a new marker at exactly 01:00:00:00:00 One Hour. This is where you will align your video when you import it.
Make sure your Cursor is at this new marker.
NOW import your Video file, it should import exactly at that 1 hour marker.
You will have some extra space before the video starts.
But now your TC and BAR 1 1 1 0 are synched.
Your new session TC start time will be 00:59:58:04:21
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