Hey,
I need to write a trill larger than an octave . Is this possible?
Thanks,
Daniel
Can you notate it as a multi-note tremolo?
Edit: Also asked in the Facebook group.
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Hi! I notate it as a tremolo, but I want to notate it as a trill and then select “auxiliary note” in appearance. Is it possible to go beyond an octave, or not yet?
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No, I don’t think so.
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of trill and tremolo. They are not the same thing.
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In this case, I’m using a trill as a bisbigliando between two fingerings that are equivalent to two notes more than an octave apart. It would look much better if it were represented as a trill and not as a tremolo.
That’s all very interesting, but it does not change the meaning of trill vs. tremolo.
What it looks like to you is, I’m afraid, irrelevant.
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On what instrument? The best solution would be whatever is easiest for the player to understand.
Bass clarinet. I think trill will be easier to understand than tremolo…
I’m not sure I understand correctly, but does this approach what you’re after?
I entered a chord, added the trill with an octave interval and then hid the top notehead and suppressed playback for the top note. Playback might be messy (I didn’t try that). The auxiliary note will shift with the (hidden) top note of the chord.
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Oh!!! That’s super interesting!!! I will try! Thanks!
But the G. Schirmer style menu specifically does not allow for trills larger than a major second (see page 84 - second edition).
Although the Gould book is very thorough, i don’t consider it absolutely definitive other than a house style guide for Faber Music.
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Perhaps you should look up bisbigliando as well.
I don’t know what specific pitches you want to alternate, but as a (former) professional bass clarinettist i can tell you that the two examples @Zalde provided would be extremely awkward, if not impossible.
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I came up with those examples merely to show the possibilities in Dorico and I used completely random notes to do so. I never claimed this would be playable, or idiomatic, for the bass clarinet or any other instrument for that matter. If that had been the question, I would have refrained from answering. 
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that you did.
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This is the first way I attempted to do it — using tremolos.
One of the problems is that I can’t place the velocity marking graphically within the trill. I have to create additional lines and instructions to indicate it.
Instead, I think this way is much easier to understand. Also, the second note (the note in the trill) is “fake” — it’s the result of an alternate fingering. The true sounding result appears on another staff above, showing the harmonic produced.
This is my attempt to make Let Me Die Before I Wake by Salvatore Sciarrino more accessible.
This will be the final result (still needs some editing).
(The upper staff indicates the resulting sound; the lower staff shows the fingering/execution to be performed.)
It works perfectly, so thank you!
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Which books are you talking about? Could you recommend me some? I can’t find them just by the author’s name… Thanks!!!
Maybe this?
(I don’t own the book, and if so, I would not be qualified to recommend (or not) the book )
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