Trouble deleting triplet following a triplet in a pick-up measure

[SharksOnThePotomac]

Hello!

I’m in Dorico 5.1.60.2187 (Oct 8 2024).

I have a pickup measure: 1 bar with an eighth note triplet. When I inserted this, I had sticky triplets engaged, so it automatically created an empty triplet in bar 1 beat 1.

Now I can’t delete that bar 1 beat 1 triplet. If I’ve uploaded the image. correctly, it’s the bit in purple.

I’ve tried suggestions I’ve found in the forum:

• just select the triplet and delete
• select only the notes, not the bracket; hit delete
• select the triplet and “;3” then delete…

I can get rid of the bar 1 beat 1 triplet if I delete the triplet in the pick-up measure. But, when I insert the pick-up measure triplet again, it automatically creates the triplet in bar 1 beat 1.

I would like to have

• a triplet in the pick-up measure
• whatever I want in bar 1 (quarter notes in this case)

I hope this is clear, but please let me know if not. I appreciate your thinking on this.

Thanks, Jim

[SharksOnThePotomac]

Clearly this is something I’m doing poorly. I’m now on editing a completely different player (same score) and with sticky triplets on, every time I get to beat 4 (in 4/4), it adds the beat 4 triplet and a beat 1 triplet in the next measure.

Thanks again,
Jim

[Christian_R]

Hi @SharksOnThePotomac, make sure you select the eight note value before inserting your triplet. You can also write 3:2e in the popup (e defines eight notes). From your description it seems that you are probably creating instead quarter triplets, that then Dorico splits over the barline (and they look like two eight triplets and are “connected” together because they are one big quarter triplet in reality).

As an example and clarification, here what happens when you create a quarter triplet on the last beat of a 4/4 measure. If you then move the triplet to other rhythmical position, it reveals its real nature :

If this is not the case, please upload your project for further help.

[SharksOnThePotomac]

Hi @Christian_R !

Thank you for taking the time to think on this and prepare the video clip. Your reminding me to do this works; as you suspected that was my problem .

I really do appreciate the time and the really fast response.

Best,
Jim

[Christian_R]

You are very welcome @SharksOnThePotomac.

@SharksOnThePotomac
Here the Manual for reference:

Tuplets popover

and especially this part: