Trouble with adding a title page



I have added a text box to my title page that does not appear when I close my Score title page template. Help!
Stan Martin
Windows 10 pro
Dorico 5.0.20

Right click on the miniature for page 1 and select Remove Page Override(s)

Thank you Michele.
But when I do that, the whole Title page dissapears.

Since this is a custom template, now right-click again and select Page Template Change.
Select ā€œScore Title Pageā€ and make sure it is only set for this page.

PS: reason why the page ā€œdisappearedā€ is that Dorico applied again the main page template for page 1, which is ā€œFirstā€.

Thank you Michele, That worked!!!

I had to remove the overrides first (the title page disappears) and then Insert Page Template Change. Thanks again!

My pleasure to help!
There is often a bit of faith involved into the order of operations with these overrides, but it generally works.
A global piece of advice: save work with page templates for when youā€™ve completed everything else! (or as much as possible). This will save you quite a bit of headaches and frustration.

Thereā€™s a bit of subtlety in that ā€œinserting a pageā€ and selecting a page template for that page isnā€™t the same as assigning a page template change to that page.

An inserted page that uses a selected page template is still treated as a page template override, with a red triangle marking in the right panel, and those donā€™t update if you edit the underlying page template.

It can take some getting used to, but you donā€™t need to insert a title page: just assign your title page template directly to page 1. If it doesnā€™t have a music frame on it, the music will automatically shift to the next page.

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Apparently itā€™s a design choice, but TBH I donā€™t understand it. If I insert a page based on a template, Iā€™d expect it to be linked to that template, and not have the red override triangle. Why is it an override, when I donā€™t change anything on the page?

One could ask in return, why insert a page when assigning a title page template will do the same thing, move the start of the music to the following page?

Then why doesnā€™t it have the same result? Adding a page of a certain type, especially in front matter, is a very logical thing to do after composing/typesetting the music itself. Iā€™ve trained myself to always create a Title page template where needed, because itā€™s the best way to give your layouts a similar look with the least effort. The dialog explicitly gives me the option so select a template. But you always end up with an overridden page, which we know is better to avoid, so this method is pretty useless. You are required to use a template change instead.
(And in many cases you will have to add another template change to page 2 if for example the original first page was a ā€˜Firstā€™. It would be nice if Dorico were able to apply the ā€˜Firstā€™ template automatically not to page 1, but to the page where the music [in the MAin frame chain] starts.)

I think the mental block to overcome is that, when faced with the ā€œI need a title pageā€ problem, most people seem to insert a page, rather than change the template of the first page.

Iā€™d be happy for a confirmation warning to appear ā€œDo you really want to insert a page, or would a template change be better?ā€

To be honest, I find the text functions in general in Dorico much too complicated . Adding text pages too. Learning the text functions takes much more time and tutorials than all notation functions together.

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