Trying to fix a problem in Play mode

I do all of my DAW work in Logic Pro and use Dorico 6 (now 6.1) for writing scores. However, over the past few days, I’ve had the annoying problem that MIDI input into a particular staff gives me the right note in the score, but never the right sound (the sound is like a cheap synth) during input. However, playback sounds fine. In addition, when I try to enter multiple notes at the same time in either a keyboard staff or using the carrot to play individual notes in multiple staves, I only hear the top note, again played by the cheap synth.

I decided that I should venture into Play mode and see if I could understand what was going on and decided to start with Anthony Hughes’ multi-video Introduction to Play mode. I can see by the posting date of 7 years ago that it’s obviously note a Dorico 6.1 version. However, the track info, piano-roll UI is very similar to Logic (and I suspect Cuebase) as well. I’ve attached screen shots from what Anthony’s video showed and what I’m seeing since what I’m seeing is not very helpful from a number of perspectives (size, information content, etc.). I realize that I’m down a rat hole now when all I really want to do is to find out why my MIDI IN path suddenly got so screwed up. However, trying to find a solution to a problem that one doesn’t understand is almost always a bit of an exercise in frustration. Can anyone give me a few guide lines before I run off the road? Thanks VERY much!

If I expand the lower panel, I get…

…which is similar to the older view you have , only the piano roll is now at the bottom rather than at the top.

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Dahhh….I was looking for a menu item or command-key as for the panels in Write mode.

As you probably noticed from my screenshot, I’m using NotePerformer 5. I’ve never had any trouble with it and MIDI IN. But I just started a new score from scratch to seen if maybe there was something wrong with the score on which I’ve been working for the past week and I have exactly the same MIDI IN problem as I described. I’m hoping by crawling around in Play mode I can stumble on a solution. If you or anyone else on the Forum have any suggestions, I’ll be glad to try them.

And thanks for answering my REALLY DUMB question so graciously…:slight_smile:

Perhaps this again?

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I wish I could understand your message (above) including where you went/what you did to generate it…but that may be beyond my pay-grade at the moment (even though I spent 20+ years as a software developer).

UPDATE-1: I just tried Dorico 4 and Dorico 3.5 and had the same MIDI input problem described above. MIDI input worked fine in Logic Pro (polyphonic, correct software instrument, etc.) so this is clearly something that has happened in the Dorico infrastructure that I can neither identify or solve, I have restarted by Mac x2 to no avail.

UPDATE-2: However, in what I consider the worst way to solve a problem – random guesses – I have, in fact, ‘solved’ the problem in the sense that it is now gone and all appears to be functioning correctly. Here’s what I did: I changed the Device Setup to use Blackhole2-ch. This resulted in MIDI IN giving me the correct sound BUT no notes in the staff. I then when back to my original Device Setup of Display Audio and – voila!! – everything worked as before.

I really don’t want to believe in gremlins but i’m going back to work…:slight_smile:

One remaining loose end (sorry to ask one additional question):

Although MIDI In is now sounding and transcribing correctly, I only hear the piano sound on input irrespective of of which instrument staff I’m working in. Playback (using NotePerformer5) plays the ‘correct’ instrument; MIDI In does not (piano only).

Is there something in the Play mode that I need to change/set/reset? I’ve looked at the various settings in the Input Options and can’t see anything there. Any suggestions? I suspect this is something very simple because it has always worked in the past (stopped after upgrade to 6.1 a week ago).

I don’t think so. I consider this a bug (input monitoring wrongly routed) and am waiting patiently for a resolution.

Now all input sound has stopped. Dorico is showing that it’s getting MIDI when I play my controller, and the notes appear correctly in the staves, but I’ve lost all sound on input. Playback works fine. I’ve tried restarting everything but to no avail….boy, is this frustrating.

You need to switch the MIDI Thru option on in the Dorico Preferences

Thank you!! That fixed the problem. However, having used Dorico 3.5, 4, 6 NS now 6.1, I must say that I have never experienced this problem (and didn’t ever set the MIDI Thru setting because I never had a problem hearing my input from my controller to the Dorico score. AND, the sudden absence of MIDI In sound – literally as I was entering notes in a specific measure – has never happed. So I have to ask WHY?

Also, I still have the problem with not getting the right sound (i.e. the sound of the specific instrument in the staff into which I’m inputting MIDI notes) PLUS when I play a chord of notes to assign the notes to a stack of staves selected with the carrot, I only hear the TOP note…and it is played by a strange sounding synth-like instrument.

So all is not yet good…but it’s certainly better.

Thank you again!

The problems you mentioned are known and they actually started with Dorico 6.1.

Rest assured that they will get fixed in the next version.

Great news! So it’s not just me…:slight_smile: