Tuplet abbreviation with tremolo, staccato

I want to show in Dorico Pro 5.16 the sextuplet abbreviated and played staccato as I did in my original handwritten score, Measures 34-37, and elsewhere in the score. Hopefully the photo I took uploaded properly. Thanks for advice. I’m new to Dorico, but have used other notation software for 30 years. Frank

From a notation perspective, it looks pretty straightforward: A quarter note with a two-stroke tremolo, a staccato dot, and a number (as a fingering or something similar).

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Did you want it also to play back correctly?

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Thanks for answering. Yes, I want it to play back staccato as 6 sixteenths in the time of a quarter note.

You will need to go the “add staff below” route… Add the staff before the sextuplets, write them down as you want them to sound, then delete the +1 signpost (you must show signposts in View menu >signposts)
Select the correctly notated stuff that doesn’t play correctly and make sure you enable the Suppress playback property (or whatever it is called now). Dorico should play the hidden version properly :wink:

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For measure 34, you could enter five dotted quarter notes inside 6:4x tuplets. Then select all five notes, add the two-stroke tremolos and staccato dots, and set the property Rhythm dot X to -1 1/4 spaces in engrave mode:

This will also playback correctly.

Edit: After posting this, I realized that if the black noteheads are on a line rather than a space, the rhythm dots will be partially visible after moving them to the left. It would be nice if notes also had a Rhythm dot Y property.

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It may be useful to notate the first sextuplet in full, i.e. unabbreviated. Then the musician playing it will be confident doing it simile from there on.
And I believe the quarter notes/crotchets might better be dotted in this case, because of the sextuplets (six 16ths = dotted quarter). But practices differ, I know.

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Thank you very much! I think I’ll use the dotted quarter note and leave them visible.

I thought it didn’t… Maybe this has changed in an update. That is good news!

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I’m quite confident I read about that in a Dorico version history document, tried it, and it didn’t work… So I thought no real progress was made and I understood the document wrong. But I am glad it’s there now :pray:

I didn’t remember reading it, but I tested it out that day in both 3.5 and 4 to ascertain when the change happened!