I’m trying to figure out how to enter a tuplet in one voice, while leaving the other voice alone. Is that possible in Dorico?
Of course! Did you not just try it yourself?
I did, but when I went to finish the bar in voice 1, it thought I was working in tuplets
If they are actually different voices, you can have any rhythm against another.
Now, the important thing is, are you using the term “voice” correctly?
Remember that in Dorico you initially have only one voice per staff. You must create a 2nd voice (and third if you need that as well, though honestly, it’s pretty rare.)
To create a new voice: ctrl+v
It is always preferable to have voice colours showing, this way you always know which voice you are working with at any given moment.
If you have a new voice, it can be “launched” from any point, even halfway through a measure.
But it does require you to plan a bit around which notes will belong to which voice.
Ask for more information if you require it.
I see where I was going wrong… the tuplet(izer) shuts off after the first set… it does that in some conditions, but not others, which I have yet to understand yet. When does it stay on, and when does it go off?
if you are entering notes, tuplets should remain active as long as you do not manually move the cursor, change instruments/staves, change voices, etc…
Tuplets remain sticky ONLY if you are entering a truly consecutive series of notes that are all tuplets.
Now, to be totally fair, I HAVE noticed a few instances of tuplets turning off after I’ve entered one single tuplet. I have no idea what might trigger that behaviour, BUT it is relatively rare.
If you use the button in the left panel, i̶t̶’s̶ a̶ s̶i̶n̶g̶l̶e̶ t̶u̶p̶l̶e̶t̶ (edit) it’s sticky. If you use the popover it’s sticky too.
One thing that sometimes trips people up is that you either have to have the correct note value selected before you input the tuplet (e.g. eighths/quavers for three eighths/quavers in the time of two), or you need to specify in the popover e.g. 3:2e (e for eighth). If you happen to be inputting one of these on the final quarter/crotchet beat of a bar and you have the default quarter/crotchet selected, you’ll find you get what appear to be two triplets either side of the barline - this is actually a single 3:2q triplet that Dorico displays as two separate ones (unless you turn on its Spans barline property).
I’ve never used the button, only the popover.
and I’ve had this “unsticky” tuplet event happen a few times in recent weeks.
it doesn’t happen often, but it was enough to be annoying.
I gotta test this… I seem to recall the converse… I’ll be baaahk!
Yes, the converse is true. The button is sticky, but the popover needs a reminder, I’m finding
Interesting: it turns out that I’m wrong about using the button in the left panel - that too is sticky.
But I definitely find that using the popover is also sticky, just as I said.
Tuplet input stops if you move the caret with the arrow keys. It remains sticky if you input notes and move the caret with the space bar.
This should be in the manual somewhere.
@Lillie_Harris however, there seems to be an inconsistent bug where it “un-stickies” even when simply entering notes on a MIDI keyboard.
It’s happened to me a number of times now, over the last few weeks.
I know I’m not moving the cursor manually nor using the spacebar, because I was entering notes directly through my MIDI kb. When it happened I even deleted the notes I’d entered and re-entered them, with the same issue: one triplet would appear correctly, but the three subsequent notes would enter as simply three eighth notes.
In that case, can you share more details about the keyboard you’re using, the exact steps you’re following, any patterns you can identify etc? A very cursory test here with a little Keystation Mini has no issues with tuplets remaining sticky.
I haven’t been able to replicate the issue consciously.
it happened while I was entering strings of triplets in a piano part.
I tried and tried, and it didn’t happen again, then suddenly, when I wasn’t really paying attention it did it again.