Tuplets: Need three notes per four


For some reason I can’t find any way to replace each four-note group with triplets, that is, 18 evenly spaced notes contained within this group of 24 notes.

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What ratio are you entering into the popover?

18:24 with 32nd notes selected?

Wow. Thanks for the fast reply! I used every combination of 3:xxx I could dream up. What am I doing wrong? I know it must be some simple dumb thing, but my brain is frozen.

No worries. Have you tried the ratio I listed?

If you don’t already know, the ratios work like this:

[how many of the selected notes you want] : [in the space of this many]

Well, I’m trying to show three tuplets for each group of four sixteenth notes.

They are actually 32nd notes.

Make sure you have 32nd notes selected > open tuplet popover > enter 3:4 > that should do it.

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Yes, of course. I see. Now how do I break that group so that it’s 3 notes for every 4?


This is what I get when I do “; 3:4”.

I’m not quite sure what you mean, sorry.

You can just select the tuplet and copy/paste it as many times as you want (EDIT: and then hide the bracket and number). You could also do what I suggested earlier and, rather than using 3:4 six times, use 18:24 once and then just split the beams where you desire. I haven’t explored the beam-splitting and so it might not produce optimal results.


Here’s what I get for “; 18:24”.
I have to sign off for now. Thanks very much for helping with this. Something seems funny here, but…

As far as I can tell, you just need to manually split the beams into groups of 3.

Anyways, good luck!

Hi @spencered , beside the many useful suggestions given above by @DanielMuzMurray you could also (this are some alternative ways. You can try them out to exercise using different features of Dorico Tuplets input):

-to correct your already inputted notes (and transform them into triplets):

a) select the whole bar with your 4 note groups (your first example), then press your shortcut for the tuples popover or click on the x:y symbol on the left (long press the Tuplet icon if you see some other ratio), in the popover write 3:4, press enter. Now you have what you need. Delete the extra undesired notes and triplets (Dorico maintains the amount of notes and puts some of the remaining notes in the next bar). Then set the visibility of the bracket and number as desired, in the properties panel.

or

-if you want/need to create many 32nd triplets from scratch

b) on an empty bar just enter the caret, activate the tuplets popover, write 3:4y (y=32nd), enter, press 3, play the desired notes on midi or computer keyboard. (Dorico continues to write triplets till when you stop it pressing the keyboard shortcut for End Tuplet Input)

or

c) select a full bar rest, activate the tuplet popover and write 3:4y (y=32nd). It will create triplets with 3 32nd in the place of 4 32nd as rests (also here you can delete the extra triplets that will be created in the subsequent bar, like before). Now double click on the first rest and you can replace the rests with notes pressing the notes on your computer or midi keyboard.

Here the manual sites:

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By way of illustration…

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I think it would be more usual to notate these as semiquavers rather than demi-semis.
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@spencered, I believe the unit you need is 16th note.

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If this is what you want, here are the steps to take:

  1. Start with an empty measure of 6/8 (or select all notes in a 6/8 measure)
  2. Get in Note Entry mode (double click or Shift-N)
  3. Type 4;3 RETURN
  4. Type “a” 18 times

(Notes):

the 4 selects 16th notes

the ; key gives you the tuplet popover

the 3 defines a 3:4 tuplet

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Thank you. This is for a guitar picking pattern, like a tremolo on arpeggios. So it is 3:4, the effect I want.

Actually I copied it from the edition I have of Johann Strauss’ Op. 314. I know it looks odd. The effect is as close as I can get to a real violin tremolo spanning up to four notes. It works ok.