How do I turn off Automatic Score Order? I’ve got an orchestral score with lots of horns in different keys and when I try to change them, (for example, Horn in F to Horn in F no key signature), the score setup changes (to accommodate the ‘new’ score order) but the actual music doesn’t. I’ve now got Horn 2 above Horn 1 in the score playing Horn 1’s music.
I’ve seen this too this week – specifically with changing Horn keys, in fact.
In Setup mode, at the bottom of the list of players on the left, press and hold on the Sort button (with the down-arrow) and choose “None”.
Thanks – You got me to check this out, so now I understand why I was having the exact same problem!
Brilliant! Thanks. The constant rearrangement and renumbering of Horns has been driving me nuts.
Is there some way to have it off by default? It’s more annoying than helpful.
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No, you can’t disable it by default at present, but it’s a setting saved in the project, so it’s something you could include in your user templates.
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I am so glad I found this answer from this post. Thank you for raising this enquiry. I personally felt that this is a good feature when I start the score for the first time. I am glad that there is the option to turn it off subsequently if I would like to do it manually. Thank you.
Just found this little trick, strongly wish “off” could be made a default option in Preferences.
While we have what we have, it would be nice if this per-project setting could be more easily found intuitively. There is what looks like a little downward-right facing arrow to the immediate right of the “Sort” button that looks like it could be a dropdown menu button, but when you click it you only get contextual setup options. Holding down the “Sort” button is not intuitive.
Still, I’m glad we have what we have, because this feature, while on it’s surface useful, has in reality been annoying.
Keep in mind they are developing for iPad at the same time, so some of these UI details come from the touch interface.
This is another one of those little things that is intuitive once you know it. There’s a tiny black triangle in the lower right corner of the button that means you can press and hold to get more options.
Keep in mind they are developing for iPad at the same time, so some of these UI details come from the touch interface.
As loyal and overall happy owner and user of Dorico since it was first released, it is a fact, not one I’m entirely thrilled about. The influence of the iPad interface on the desktop interface has introduced some suboptimal experiences for some desktop users, myself being one of them. iPad is inherently limited in screen space. Large desktop monitors are not.
I realize that a combination of factors led to this situation, some perhaps from Yamaha, some from the need to avoid having the work of the team become fragmented. I’m glad we have Dorico and have the team, and this might not be the case apart from these developments.
But speaking for myself apart from such considerations, I prefer not to be cramped as a desktop user by an interface designed to accomodate an iPad user.
I find the same problem with many websites that have been redesigned to accommodate phone and iPad browsing while making things more difficult for the desktop user.
I guess I’m just a desktop dinosaur in a mobile age.
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This is another one of those little things that is intuitive once you know it. There’s a tiny black triangle in the lower right corner of the button that means you can press and hold to get more options.
Right.
This was explained earlier in the thread. And while it allows us to get the job done it, it is not intuitive or optimal to have to click-hold the triangle down rather than just click or right-click on it to access the options. I have done the intuitive thing in the past and clicked on it, but since nothing happened I figured it was a useless visual artifact.
That said, once this is pointed out it does reveal the capability.
Appreciate your comments, I just felt the need to express my mild frustration as a desktop user carried along on a mobile tidal wave.
Dorico is great, the team is the greatest, and I really appreciate the new 4.1 features.