Hi,
is there a way to have two different clefs on one staff? I’m currently editing a piano piece where there is a long tied note in the bass (which is to be played with sustain pedal). Then the player is supposed to move to a higher register. If I add a treble clef just before the “higher register passage” though, the bass note also drops into treble clef.
So the question is: Is there a way to have a clef affect only one voice inside one staff instead of all the voices?
Welcome to the forum, Claude_Kraus. You cannot write music in two separate clefs on the same staff, no. I wonder whether that passage might be clearer written on a third staff, or writing the notes between the staff with a voice-specific octave line so that they are transposed independently of the sustained notes in the lower staff?
Surely you would just write that high bit at the top of the upper staff, with an indication for LH? That’s easiest, and quite common.
You can fake it by writing the second half of the tied note as middle C (in the treble clef) and joining the two parts with an l.v. tie.
If you want it to play back, suppress playback of the fake note, and edit the length of the Eb.
Debussy was quite fond of this sort of notation.
Brilliant!
I also like this approach for certain passages. By any chance might it be possible to have the clef only apply to one voice? IN the same way one can enter an 8va sign in one voice my using the popover and pressing Alt-Enter. Thanks
I’d like that too. In the meantime, I have used the same workaround described up there each time I needed that feature.
This is where Ukranian composer Vasyl Barvinsky starts adding staves to his keyboard parts.
@Derrek or any of a hundred other composers, e.g. Scriabin.
Several examples of simultaneous clefs applying to one staff are mentioned here: Interesting Music Notation — as well as a variety of other exceptional and eccentric notations.
Search for “incipits.”
https://www.steinberg.help/r/dorico-pro/5.1/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_barlines/notation_reference_barlines_systemic_brackets_hiding_showing_t.html
Don’t do this unless you want the pianist to be thrown off and quit studying the piece. It guess extremely ambiguous later on what notes are supposed to be played. Third staff is the best solution, look at piano music sheets.
This is used for the study of counterpoint, or Renaissance vocal music. Nothing to do with piano.
