Can anyone help me figure out how to set up my page/part templates so that placed page graphics (think logos and images) are more reliable?
When prepping course materials for workshops I put my organization’s logo in the lower right, and the hosting institution’s logo in the lower left. no matter what I do, it seems like every time I re-open a saved file that I haven’t worked on for a bit, the graphic boxes (frames) have changed size and ejected the logo images.
Since everything has to be sized freehand (because it isn’t possible to set an absolute box size defined by the box (as opposed to defined in relation to the page margins) this becomes a real pain in the neck to deal with because I have to re-size the frames and re-import the logos every time I’m working on the file.
I remember that now. The choice to use the “lock” icon rather than the more common “anchor” icon was definitely a choice, particularly since it is possible to resize frames by dragging, so there is no logical connection between the “lock” symbols on in the left hand panel and resizing the frame (because in graphic editing programs, the lock usually means that the dimension is fixed when the frame is locked). But that’s old news. – I have imposed the same kvetch on the forum before and received the same answer.
I have also discovered that in the slices panel, while the boxes for absolute height and width appear in the properties panel, there doesn’t seem to be any way to access them for graphic slices. This can be a challenge when trying to set a consistent size for incipits.
What I’d really like more insight into is why the boxes change size many times when I close the files, and particularly why it’s the graphic boxes that do this an not the other types of frames.
In Indesign (and perhaps other programs), you have the ability to attach the graphics file to the indesign file so that the graphics travel with the indesign file (for example, when sharing with another person). I can’t remember exactly what that’s called. In Dorico, I can’t even get the graphics to follow the same file pathway on a single laptop.
In the screenshot, you can see the pink frames, but the graphics that had been placed there are no longer there - no matter whether you resize the frame.
The graphics you place in those frames will be saved inside the project so they certainly shouldn’t disappear, and indeed the frames shouldn’t change size. I’m not sure what could be causing Dorico to lose the reference to the images. If you’ve repeatedly reimported them, multiple copies may well be lurking around inside the project file now. Can you attach the troublesome project here so we can take a look?
Everything looks OK in these projects. I added a new player and assigned it to all the flows and checked the corresponding part layout, and that looks OK too. I can see that you have manually added the graphics in several of the layouts, which shouldn’t be necessary, as they’re already included in the page template set. Perhaps the next time you encounter this, upload the project at that point (i.e. when the graphics next go missing) and let me know which layout(s) they have disappeared from, and perhaps I’ll be able to tell what’s happened.
the thing is, I just downloaded one of the files, opened it up, and I can’t see the graphics. Here is a screen shot from the print dialog for the violin part.
I seem to have a knack for creating unique problems in Dorico.
In this second screen shot, I’ve got the part layout dialog open. I don’t see the graphics, and it is also clear that the pink “graphics” frames are the wrong size for the images that are supposed to go in them. (too short when they should be almost square – slightly wider than tall, but not so much as is visible here).
Are you still running Dorico 5, or are you now running Dorico 6? It might be interesting to know whether you see this problem in Dorico 6? (You can install the 60-day trial version on your computer without interfering with Dorico 5.)
ok, well that’s really interesting!! You can see 'em, but I can’t. A true conundrum.
Ah, I was planning to upgrade to 6 anyway, so let me see what happens when I get that up and running. May take a day or two.
FWIW, this has been happening on multiple laptops over multiple versions of dorico. As it happens right now, I’m only using one laptop for Dorico work, so I don’t think it’s an issue of things getting jumbled between different work stations. I’m also running files out of a synced local dropbox folder so the sourcing of images and dorico files shouldn’t be an issue??
No, the graphic files are located inside the Dorico project itself, so there’s no way (I can think of, anyway) that the location of the project file can influence whether the graphics appear.
Yes, that was clear from the previous answer. The thing that is maddening is that you can see them (and others can) but I can’t. I don’t suppose there’s some place in Dorico to see where the image files are located? There’s no right click options specific to any of the graphics stuff as far as I can see, and i wouldn’t know where else to look otherwise.
Don’t know if this might be a windows / mac thing?
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with Dorico 6 on Mac, I see no graphics in the violin part (or any other part) too.
After adding a new player, the graphic is not shown in new players part layout too
No, I don’t think so – I’m also on Mac. But it’s interesting to know that you don’t see any graphics, and indeed that the graphic frames are drawn outside the page margins on your system. I can offer no ready explanation for that!
Interesting … @TonH shows an additional issue I’ve encountered with these files, which is that the graphic box randomly does that – flips down to be outside the margin and re-sizes. and … a little hard to see, but it looks like the “other info” notes box has also collapsed.
I’m on a mac as well.
Side rant. Why on earth is there a highlight in green between the music frame and the bottom box indicating “32.8%” ?? I am praying that this isn’t a new ‘feature’ in Dorico 6 that I can’t turn off? What is that space 32.8% of, and what am I supposed to do with that information?
Fullness of what? it seems to be showing the distance between one text box and a music frame. I hate that there is no way to toggle off the staff fullness indicator in engrave mode (and NO holding the ~ is not a substitute for being able to toggle off that “feature”). I don’t know what that 32.8% is attempting to show that has any relation to the whole page or even between those boxes.
I’d look in dorico 6, but I can’t get it installed so I’ll have to get back to you on that. I updated the download assistant, entered my redeem code, downloaded all of the new stuff, and went to open dorico 6, and of course I’m getting a prompt to relaunch the download assistant, enter my code and proceed from there. that (of course) doesn’t work. So I’m off to another thread to try to figure out how to solve that problem.
