If I reuse an arrangement, or more specific: I have a score and want to make another song for the same band, something strange happens.
The layout of the upper part (e.g. trumpet 1) is perfect right away, but all the other parts are cluttered together on the first system. Is this expected behavior? It happens always!
Sounds like you’ve got a System Break that is “waiting” for another Break, which doesn’t exist.
And why is it not in the “most upper” part?
Better question: it doesn’t happen in the upper part, how to make it not happen in the other parts? That shouldn’t be too hard?
I really can’t say without actually seeing the page. Please provide at least screenshots, or ideally a project file.
Will do next time!
Is it possible you formatted the first part layout, and then propagated the part formatting to all the other part layouts? That might explain why the first part layout isn’t “cluttered”. A system break you created doesn’t necessarily automatically activate the “wait for next system break” property, but system breaks propagated from another layout do.
My first reaction! YES, that’s it! I propagate a lot! My second reaction: why is that? My third: what can I do that this doesn’t happen even again? “Do not propagate” is not an option.
if you’re usually happy with the Propagate Part Formatting function, it’s probably simplest, when you’re starting the new project from a copy of the file, to cycle through the parts in engrave mode, and Engrave > Format Music Systems > Reset Layout, to remove all the breaks that are “waiting for next”.
Alternatively, you can forgo the propagate part formatting function, and instead, copy the system and frame breaks from the first part, and then paste them into all the other parts.
First make sure there’s a system or frame break at the beginning of the first bar, then select all, filter for all breaks, and copy. Then navigate to each subsequent layout, select something on the downbeat of the first bar, and paste.
Depending each layout’s content and spacing settings, this too might require some more work on the layout; what was one system in the first part might spill onto a second system in the next.
So there’s no real solution. This is specially annoying when I have to deliver a lot of small, nearly identical projects. So I can’t escape having to do a lot of work because of this strange behavior. So be it. Thanks for thinking along with me and providing me with tips! I really appreciate it. Back to work then!
Do you typically do no layout adjustments on any of your parts?
As said earlier, we can really only provide you with the best help if you can provide an actual document that show the problem. Otherwise, we’re just talking about ideas in our heads.
Typically, I do very little layout adjustment in parts, other than Frame Breaks for good page turns.
When I work on a symphony (as I do nowadays) I do a lot of layout adjustments. But sometimes I have to make a lot of small, nearly identical, easy arrangements. It wil take me minutes to produce the music, and then hours to do the layout. In that case I’m happy when there are quick, flawless ways to do the same trick all over again without me having to take seemingly unnecessary steps with each part. When doing layout on large projects, no problem!
My guess is that you could benefit enormously by spending time on finding a set of Layout options for such projects., so manual adjustment would be not necessary or only minimal.
Once you found them, you could export these options as a doricolib file, so you could re-use them
I have this! And if it weren’t for the ‘unexpected behavior’, it would work! No, to be honest, even with the unexpected behavior, it beats working with pencil and eraser.