In summary; use a mix console midi fader to address the send of an audio channel?
Guess I should give a little background, I have been for many years, multi the source track and using xovers so that any sub bass goes to an separate global group when I can keep transient and control intact as I hate the mush of compression for these pure and powerful signals ie being kinetic
eg old method
Kick is on 2 channel,
Channel 1 = Sub Bass and linear phase @100hz (key dependent) LP
Channel 2 is same xover but >100 HP
They null perfectly and dont suffer prering because they are only xover
The sub bass go to BUSS A on a Brauer ‘type’ but a couple of changes where Buss A is purely for managing the LFE type of stuff and uses a particular compression
The rest goes to BUSS B
So now I have simplified, Im just sending ie a send to Buss A and doing the xover on the input
BUT
I want a quick access fader during mix so Im thinking it would be great to use a midi fader beside the kick track butI cannot see any destination for eg a channel send so Im wondering if anyone else has done similar
I crunch and whatever the rest
Also has a send going to another subgroup.
but it occurred to me that I simply need a fader to represent the position of the send and save a lot of iiddling
Did I understand this correctly? In the Cubase Mix Console, you want the volume fader of a MIDI Track to control the Send level of an Audio or Group Track?
That is correct; in this case, the send of the audio directly beside it in the console. hth
Im just wondering as Im pretty sure you can link all controls in the mix console like this in Reaper…even invert so you can have inverse movement solutions
You can’t change the assignment of the MIDI track’s fader (CC7) to something else. You could maybe use the MIDI Control MIDI insert on a MIDI track, create a MIDI remote script and assign one of the faders on the MIDI Control plugin to the function you desire, a particular Send level in your case.
Edit: When I say maybe, I mean, you can definitely assign the faders on MIDI Control in this way, but I don’t know about a specific channel’s Send level, I haven’t made a remote script that addresses such controls before.
Don’t know about Reaper, but in Cubase you would have to use a 3rd party MIDI loop back utility to make this work.
For inverse operation I suggest looking into Bome’s MIDI Translator. It’s the only contender I can think of.
The transform and resend out via a midi loop etc is all doable, Im asking if anyone has actually done anything like this…simply. I saw very similar stuff done by dan worall in reaper and wondered how it could be simply done in Cubase. Remotes are more for modal control and are not fit for purpose. I midi device via loop would be the closest but a lot of mucking around vs link controls…but Ill do what I have to.
Cheers
No, it is not as seamless to assign in Cubase as it is in Reaper, but I know for a fact you can assign the faders on the MIDI Control plugin to MIDI Remote functions as if it was a physical controller.
If you go the MIDI Remote route, you will be beholden to the same constraints as other Control Surfaces, meaning you will have to work with the Mixconsole channels in blocks of 8. If you just want to automate the Send level, it doesn’t matter, but if you want real-time control, you will have to keep the channel whose send level you want to control in one of the first 8 slots/channels, then you can assign the controller to a specific channel’s (1 through 8) send level or whatever else.
Thats what i meant by its ‘modal’ therefore not fit for purpose…ive ended up doing a messy workaround and just setup a group channel.and automate that…but nowhere near as simple as a send control
Not sure what you mean by panel, or particularly, “modal” in this context.
Edit: If I misunderstood your original post, I apologize, but by you saying you’re just going to automate a group channel you have routed the send to, how is that any different from automating the send itself, for your purposes?
Sorry if it’s not clear
Panel/device is the original generic reference to midi remote from atari days…
Modal means the interface is active and only addressing the controller when the ui is active and channel is in focus
By having the 2 faders like this, you can use grouping/of faders, suspend etc and keeps the mixing desk paradigm…that is what is important to me…to feel it…I hate and rarely use the mouse to automated, I use passes with a fader/controller (old bcf2000 still works great) and I close my eyes…sometimes turn of the screens so Im not distracted.