VCA not saving settings Problem

EDIT: Sorry for confusion (I pulled the trigger too fast)

Please see my two next posts.

I believe you’ll find that “Volume” create a volume “Link” group.
Similar to a VCA but by default all the faders move when you move one (Alt defeats this).
Several other differences.

Not the same.

Hugh

i’m not sure what it is you mean-- if you just wanted to link channels’ inserts, for instance, a VCA wouldn’t be needed. not saying i am against fixing what is clearly a bug, just curious to find out about people’s VCA related workflows…

The great thing about the VCA fader is that it’ll control all VCA grouped faders up and down as a group but you can still move the faders within the group independently of each other. Where as if the the linking check box marked “volume” is selected (by the bug) then moving one fader within the group will move all the others which defeats the purpose of VCA.

I know VCA’s :wink:

I will look into it (a bit more).
IMO the VCA’s should be completely independent of the regular Link options.
I do believe that they’ve had to use the Link options (behind the scenes) to be able to implement the VCA feature, which in that case is just a modified Link option.

I agree that from your description, it seems like a “bug”, hmmmm :confused:

The problem is that his is NOT a real VCA system.

It is the same old Link features with the possibility to add a fader. It shouldn’t even be called a VCA fader IMO.

It took me two minutes :wink:

And I am 100% agree on all accounts with HughH (and probably many others) on this.

PS. Have their Beta testers worked on a real VCA system? Hmmm :confused:

As far as I am concerned, this is a bug.
Only -and only then- happens when you deselect all of the link options.

Fredo

The other problem is that when you select one of the tracks, it selects all. So it is NOT possible to distinguish between a Group (link) and VCA Group. These should be completely seperated IMO.

I see this as a Group/Link Master Fader, with an added Trim Automation possibility (like we always could’ve done from the Automation panel).
I don’t wan’t to select a track within a VCA group, with all other tracks being selected as well. Not good.

So with that “bug” out of the way, it could be handy in certain situations. But I hope they seperate the VCA feature completely from the Grouping/Linking system, making it closer to a “real” VCA fader/track system.
By mixing the VCA with the Groups/Links, it can fast become more complicated than necesarry IMO.

Please Steinberg, let as many seasoned VCA users test this as possible.
And listen, listen, listen to the feedback.

Hi guys,

the bug has already been reported by one of our product planners. I have moved the thread from the Issue Reports forum to the Collected Issues.

I’ll keep you posted on the progress of fixing this issue.

Regards

Hi Luis, do this means that when I link several channels to a vca and then click on one of them, it doesn´t select all the tracks thus arming the record enable?

is that also a bug?

thanks1

I really hope so, that they differenciate between the Link/Group function and VCA’s all together.

Anyway, we should be able to use VCA faders/tracks without the group functions all together.

I have problems adding other channels to already made VCA group if I not disable the whole VCA group first?
Example:

  1. I have made a VCA-group called “Drums” and it include the channels = Kick, Snare, Hihat.

  2. Now I want to add a new channel called “LOOP” to the same VCA-group “Drums”.

  3. I then select the channel, right click to add the “LOOP”-audio channel but I can’t selected the VCA group “Drums”?

Very strange?
I will check the advance video again and see if I do something wrong?


Best Regards
Freddie

It is a bit fiddly and ropey, especially the addition of “blank” VCA channels which pop up to the right of the console which are later bought into play by assigning links. IMO jus selecting a group and adding a VCA at the end of that selected group is far simpler and quick. I agree they should be divorced from the link channels control completely.

what’s the latest with this? i didn’t realize all these insane links were happening until VCA’s wrecked havoc on a project by linking routing and sends. insanity! for now i will uncheck the VCA preferences every time or stop using them. dang…

I can’t believe this made it through to release.

VCA’s were so helpful until i realized they were sowing the seeds of evil. For now i’ve found the most asinine workaround for getting them to not reset the “link” settings. You have to check a box! you can’t leave them all unchecked. So i check “pan”, which i’m hoping i’ll never touch. then the other boxes stay unchecked when i close / reload a project. Cool, eh?

nope…

I can confirm this issue… Its mainly the only one I have… Vca faders reset. My work around has been check each vca every start… I only have 4 of them.

The VCA feature should have been completely seperated from the Group/Linking part of things.

This is knuffed up as is :cry:

It’s evolved from 8,05 I must say and seemingly saving and playing back correctly in 8.10 when the project is loaded back which a real step forwards so no more fiddling around so much to get a good playback after a save and load, seems not far off spot on really so pleased here on that area. A few more tweaks would get it perfect though adding new tracks to an already set up VCA group is a bit and miss unless it’s user error at this end, but thumbs up to SB for the tweaks they bought in to help on it so far.

+1 better now…!