Vertical scroll markers / bookmarks

When working on a large project I often have to rapidly alter automation on lanes that are very far apart in the project e.g track 2 and track 49.

I know I can use track visibility to hide tracks I’m not working on but towards the end of a project I need lots of tracks /automation lanes open. Scrolling up and down trying to find the right track is headache inducing and terrible for my ailing eye sight.

Colouring tracks can help a bit, but it only goes so far, a 60 track project can’t have 60 distinguishable colours after all.

The solution would be to have something similar to markers, so a panel on the left of the arrangement page (similar to the track visibility panel) could contain a custom list of automation lanes (drag and drop). I could then select a lane from this list or use a hotkey to cycle through the list. No more starring at tracks flying past my eye ever again! It would just jump to the right place. Not only would this be more ergonomic it would probably save 30 mins a day where I scroll back and forth hunting for the track I want.

I made this very suggestion about a month ago. I also called it Vertical Markers. Bookmarks is nice as well.

It’s self-evident. My projects often have hundreds of tracks. And I spend more time screwing around -vertically-. There need to be the same navigation tools for going up and down as there are for going side to side.

+1,000,000

It would improve workflow by more than 5% imo, and is quite a straightforward feature to program.

One of those things we put up with but really don’t have to.

You can essentially accomplish what you’re after with some basic PLE Script/Macros and basic project organization, for example, If I want to see all the Drums in the project, I have a PLE script with an assigned key command. And then if I want to switch to only Strings, I can hit that key command as well.

All my drum tracks have Drm in the title and are all in a Drm folder, so that I can target that always. Vocals always have ‘Voc’, Guitars always have ‘Gtr’, Dialogue is ‘Dx’, Sound Effects ‘SFX’, etc.

I can flip between all of these quickly (as well as some specific variations like Drums and Bass) with key commands.

I’ve also done this for Solo/Muting to quick solo vocals, or mute drums, etc, etc.

Cubase/PLE is amazing.

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It may be actually, that you should request some additions/new features to PLE, and or Key Command Functions such as ‘Scroll To Selected Track’. This way with PLE you could target select ‘Voc-Ld’ and ‘Scroll to Selected Track’.

What is PLE script?

Project Logical Editor look it up,

it allows you to create automated processes using Boolean Logic, to almost any function in Cubase and create new ones for yourself.

You can use Macros in your PLE scripts.


So you can use PLE to ‘Select’ all tracks that contain ‘Drm’, and then run a macro, or set the track colour. All in the stroke of one mouse click or key command.

You can target tracks, events, parts, markers, etc, etc by their name, colour, length, and do different processes on them.

Oh you mean project logical editor, I see what you mean I can hide tracks that are not a given string. I have saved this as a preset but it doesn’t show in the key commands list?

Actually I was looking in Process logical preset.

I have it working now and this may help for now but it is a bit basic, i.e I can only really setup some very generic presets, it wont work for tracks that are not so easily categorised.

Also key commands are pretty well used up for me, I will be struggling to make this work.

And I have to name every track, it wont open everything in a folder, to be honest this sucks but thanks.

I think using track color detection may actually be a better way to do this, assuming you don’t use colors for anything else.

I take that back, still awful.

Okay the way I have this set up, requires a certain consistent organizational workflow which is nice to get into anyways.

A prerequisite is having a template system where you are always using templates with folders that are named a certain way so that they can always be targeted. So I have instrumentation types organized into folders, and they are always named the same thing because I am always using the same base template which I have variations of.

Lets use Drums as an example:

There are different ways of doing this depending on if you want,
-Toggle Show
-Hide
-Show only

I don’t solely use the PLE hide-enable/disable/toggle function, I’m also using a macro.


PLE #1 “Show Only D R U M S”

Name | Equal | D R U M S

Track Operation | Hide Track | Disable

Function: Transform | Macro: Visibility+Select D R U M S

Macro#1
the macro listed above, also contains another PLE… This is the macro:

-Process Project Logical Editor - Select ‘D R U M S’ ((> <---- this will be PLE#2 below> ))
-Channel & Track Visibility - Agents: Show Only Selected Channels/Tracks
-Project - Folding: Unfold Tracks
-Zoom - Zoom Tracks Full

PLE#2 used in Macro#1

Name | Equal | D R U M S

//No action target/operation\

Function: Select

^ you are assigning a key command to PLE#1

using Generic Remote, you can assign MIDI buttons/drum pads, to your Key Commands/PLE.

So I have all these binded to buttons on my Novation SLMKII. (until I get an iPad with MetaGrid or something comparable)

Ok thanks, I’ll try that tomorrow

make sure you create PLE#2 before you create the macro even though technically the macro comes before PLE#2

This is what I do and it works really great and it doesn’t keep you from using Colors in any other way. It doesn’t actually use the color itself, but rather the name of the color. So you can have 5 colors in your pallet that are all the exact same shade of orange but with different names. At the heart of it you are using the Color Name as a constant which you can assign to a Track. I wrote in some detail about this here.
https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=283&t=176329

Still the vertical markers idea would be pretty useful.

I prefer using names and unique naming “tags” as I’m more consistent with names than I am colours.