Good morning
am an user of SL11 pro
I like to buy new things but then have many challenges looking at the result I obtain with new products
The video on YouTube most of the time help me a lot
However, because SL11 pro is very complicate would be, really, great to have a full video showing a full process from A to Z how to de-mix a full song de-mixing each sound properly
I post a full song and working on it, please show me how you obtain a good result for each track because i am lost.
Morning
I took SL but, honestly when I read ARA or other words abbreviation I don’t understand anything, completely dark
What I would like to see in a Steinberg video for each modules, so many, added in SL11 pro the utilisation.
I have read the documentation several times but
- I don’t understand why strings are mixed with guitare
- Separation vocal gives me also some musics
- Why I have on the other some strings and brass together
What is the philosophie
I was expecting a really separation for each sound but is not the case
Well I am surely wrong utilizing this software but I would like to have tools to really separate sounds.
I have seen a video on ABSOLUTE 6; great, but I didn’t see any video explain each fonction of this new SL11 pro.
you are finding the same results as many here
these unmix algos are in their infancy
I think @Phil_Pendlebury says it best, SL is a re-balancing tool when it comes to unmixing music and separate human voices. As it is now, SL unmix modules is not going to give users perfectly separated solo instruments from mixed music sources.
Also, you need to deeply understand how to manually manipulate the spectograph with SL tool set. It takes quite a long time and I am no expert. @Phil_Pendlebury and @Rajiv_Mudgal videos can be very helpful to better understand getting the best out of SL.
SL11 does an amazing job for what I am mostly using it for: film audio noise reduction. I’ve been using SL daily for the past 3 months and I learn new things daily. I realize 3 months is not very long. In that time, something I have learned that stands out is reading the spectrograph and understanding what you think you hear from that visual is critical to using SL. There is a lot to learn to develop these manual techniques.
Yes, you can read many forum posts here about how the SL Operation Manual doesn’t explain a lot of SL functionality. I think if you have specific questions, ask them on this forum and answers will come. Personally, I’d rather Robin focus his time SL development rather than write an extremely in-depth Operation Manual full of scenarios that cover every possible usage…which is rather impossible.
As far as Steinberg official videos, I do find them designed to market SL. IMO, the audio sources used in the Steinberg vids are backwards engineered to make prospects think users will achieve perfect stems, like you say you want. I have found with my original music the same as you are finding. Again, I think the unmix algos/models will get better and better as time goes on.
It is easy to forget that just the TRANSFER tool and the ENVELOPE tools are new to SL11 from June 2024 and both of those are game changers for the NR work I’m doing.
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Have a look at this video :
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Thank you so much for your answers Ctreitzell
Well understood
Working on it more time I should understand better
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Thank you so much Robin
Very interesting
Some things wasn’t clear such VST3 utilization
Let’s go ahead working more time, maybe I will understand much better the philosophie
@Gennaro have a read of this thread and try what is shown in the posted videos and will help you get a grasp on using VST3- it’s easier than you might think…but also comes with challenges 
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst3-plugins-are-buggy-and-very-slow-in-spectral-layers/931862?u=ctreitzell
@ctreitzell
I red them; become now a challenge but very interesting.
I will do some test about
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Gennaro, when I first came to SL I didn’t understand poopies about it and spent a long time barely using it. It is indeed quite different from the alternatives, and also very idiosyncratic in its approach to audio editing, so it can be a bit daunting at first. But I recommend you press forward, try each tool and see what it does, at least read about it function it has, MAP THEM TO KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS, and try, try and try again. Cause when it clicks for you, and it will click, you will move fast and be constantly amazed with what you can achieve with it.
Feel free to ask stuff here, theres always people helping out and Robin (the developer) is frequently here as well.
Good luck!
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Morning Henrique
thank you so much for your suggestion.
I started checking one by one each module and more including VST’s
Definitely, to play around needs time
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crickey! I can’t believe I haven’t done this yet 
my gosh, I learn many things every day
Henrique, you are so right about this!
When I started seriously with SL (just this past July), I knew I had to develop a workflow for my film work NR. It has taken months. Along the way, I have been finishing NR, cuz I have many colleagues who want this film finished (me included).
At first I was not going to do any mixing in SL. @Joey_Kapish talked about mixing in SL and I tried. Wow, does it help to pre-mix in SL. So, I went back to my first jobs before I nailed down my workflow. Oh my goodness, un-picking the older jobs and getting them into my current workflow is a bit of a challenge. It is certainly taking less time than when I first edited those parts.
For me, it is critical to avoid too much destructive work. If there is one thing impossible to track what I have done is using clone tool and heal after removing/ reducing unwanted sounds.
So stick with it and amazing techniques will show up for you