View in Concert Pitch: Switch Clef

[Estigy]

Hi.

When you view a score in Concert Pitch, it would be very nice if Dorico could switch instruments like Bass Clarinet or Bari Sax to bass clef.
6+ ledger lines are somewhat unreadable

Thanks, E.

[steveparker]

Brass instruments such as treble clef Euphonium do exactly what you’re asking for.

[Estigy]

Thanks, steveparker, I’ve noticed that.
Unfortunately, some of the lower wood instruments don’t.

[steveparker]

Strange…

[fratveno]

I think you have to specify ‘Bass clef full score’ when setting up or changing instrument… (right column)

[Estigy]

Thanks, fratveno. I will check when I’m back to my workbench.
I can’t remember there being more than one type of Bass Clarinet or Baritone Sax. though…

[steveparker]

Fratveno’s is indeed the answer - and useful to know!
It’s in an extra column to the right.

[Estigy]

Hi.

@Fratveno (and @steveparker), I don’t know how anyone should understand this option. I did in fact see it but did nut use it on purpose: I didn’t want it to be “Bass clef full score”, I need it to be “Bass clef only when viewing in concert pitch”.
Although this is in fact what this option really does, the label is quite misguiding, to say the least.

@DoricoTeam: Please rename this to say what it does. Thanks

[steveparker]

Hi Estigy,
I didn’t know it did this either until Fratveno said.
Very useful though. This always catches me out in Finale, because I don’t usually use concert pitch scores. Ledger-line city…

[Peter_Lurye]

I want to revive this thread, as I’ve just encountered this issue. Here’s what I’d love to be able to do:

I’m writing a saxophone quartet. Bari sax is written in treble clef but it sounds an octave plus a major sixth lower than written. While writing/arranging, I’ll often switch between concert pitch view and transposed pitch view while staying within the score layout. When I do that, I would like to be able to specify that the clef for the bari sax part within the score automatically switches to bass clef only while I’m in concert pitch view. This is for expediency in checking voicings, harmonies, etc.

Is that currently possible? Note I am not talking about setting a different clef for the score layout and the part layout. This is a “view-only” switch that would happen in response to switching the score view from “transposed pitch” to “concert pitch” without leaving the score layout. Here’s an example of why this would be so helpful (please ignore the spillover from the instrument under the bari into the screen shot):

BARI PART IN SCORE WHEN IN TRANSPOSED VIEW (treble clef):

BARI PART IN SCORE WHEN IN CONCERT VIEW (still treble clef):

Possible yet? If not, might this be added?

Thanks,

Peter

[Janus]

Is this what you want…?

[asherber]

@Peter_Lurye

Is that currently possible?

Yes.

In Setup mode, expand the player card, click the three dots next to the instrument name, and choose Edit Instrument Definition.

In the Staves and Clefs section, set the clef for non-transposing layouts to bass clef.

[Peter_Lurye]

Perfect, thanks! Yes, that worked.