VST Host, creating Combinations

Cubase
#1

Is there such a thing as the VST Host program used to be? To actually open Cubase
and be able to combine 2-3-4 different plugins into one Midi Channel, for creating
more complex Sounds and stuff, where you can at the same time play the Strings
from Kontakt and Play.

Thanks

#2

I suppose you could use midi sends? Or is there more you want to do?

#3

How can i use MIDI Sends to do this? I simply want to be able to trigger
2-3-4 VSTi at once from one MIDI Track, as Korg Combination for example
or in whatever terms u use that, Performance?

Thanks

#4

Route the Midi Send/s to another VSTi or 4 !

Yes they can do this (to answer your next question)

#5

Solved! Thanks!!!

#6

Next problem for you might be to store and recall your combinations. Since I had the same problem: I use

Vienna Ensemble Pro

for this purpose and it works just easy and fine. Just google for it.

#7

Thanks for the Vienna Ensamble tipp, i m also searching for a possibly to save and load quickly a chain of VSTis and VSTs as a Preset, and found that: http://www.kvraudio.com/product/bidule-by-plogue
Has anyone exipriance with both Programs who want to share them? (performance, time to load, sound, finding “sounds” again…)

And might it possible to make a Automation-Parameter of a “chained” plugin available via Midi, and LFOs, Env’s inside the Pluginchainer would be also very nice… the point is one click and all saved/load.

#8

Kore2 (+ Reaktor) = any plugin combination, any audio/midi/automation processing possible, each setup easily stored in a taggable sound database. Discontinued, NI really is crazy :frowning:

Kore2 x32/x64 hosted native in a x32/x64 Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 Server on any machine in the network = easy workload/audio/midi/automation distributing over the network. Setups easily storable/mergeable in VIFRAMEs, saved/restored with the main proejct!

with a Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 x32 or x64 native client plugin in the projects main host (Cubase x32 or x64).


= (nearly) perfect flexible solution :wink:

#9

But ins Vienna Ensamble Pro there are no LFO’s or Env’s… wich you can route on any parameter you want?

#10

what for?

use Kore2. Use Reaktor in Kore2. Modulate whatever you want to. Save everything as a sound.

Have Kore2 in VEPro anywhere in your network and mix all audio channels of Kore2, bridge/transport MIDI/Automation/Audio from your DAW from/to Kore2 on any machine in the network via VEPro5.

Have VEPros audio channels available in Cubase / or send Audio/MIDI/Automation from Cubase to VEPro/Kore2…

Use Kore2 to “form” your sound (consisting of any plugins, any MIDI/Audio/Automation routing/processing)
Use VEPro5 to distribute workload and transport/bridge MIDI/Audio/Automation within your network
Use Cubase to compose.

#11

sry for my bad english…

For example 1 Env for 2 Synths and a Filter? is this possible with ViennaEnsamblePro on its own?

#12

No.

Edit: actually it IS, using Cubase and VEPro5 (no Kore2) a Midi env/lfo generator plugin/midi insert, midi and/or midi<->VST parameter conversion -> VEPro5 -> plugins

It’s even possible with Cubase alone.

But you don’t want to do stacking/chaining this way :wink:

#13

Thank you. Than i will not install the demo of VEP, and for bidule there is no demo :frowning:

But i want to save the whole as a “Trackpresets”, preview of course would be quite cool… [http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=24551i] if we would have this, MidiLoopBackTrick probably wouldn’t work for this, so we would also need something like this:[/i] http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=24508

Can you say me a good Env Plugin for Cubase64?


Best Regards

#14

What i was thinking is for each Combi to be its own Song Project.