I downloaded the latest version, but precount still does not save. What is happening is this; precount only works as a precount if the metronome and preroll is enabled, but when preroll is enabled it disables the precount, thus negating the save function when I open VST Live.
Correct, that is by design.
So how do i get an audible precount that will save?
what is your goal?
With example⦠my example:
- have a song that is starting at bar#1 (00:00:00:00) and you need the
1-2-3-4 and keep 1-2-3-4 forever,
OR
2. have a song that is starting at bar#1 (00:00:00:00) and you need the
1-2-3-4 then silence for the rest of your song?
OR
3? what?
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#2 is my goal
Yes, it does that but it does not save them
Hi @SDF
tested on my MacMini and unfortunately itās not saving me āPRECOUNT stateā either, youāre right! Could you please re-ceck it @musicullum ?
Recipe: New project > default Song1 > activate Metro+PreRoll+PreCount > Save project > close > Reload project.
Result: PreCount āiconā getās back to disabled.
The actual problem is that PRECOUNT and Metronome active are mutual exclusive. PRECOUNT means that the Metronome is active exclusively when counting in in record mode. When you activate Metronome, PRECOUNT is automatically disabled, but the other way round was missing, added with the next version (activating PRECOUNT disables Metronome active).
In addition, PRECOUNT was saved as a local preference only. Thatās tricky, and as all other metro related values are saved with each Song, we changed that so that PRECOUNT is now saved individually with each Song as well.
Jeez, this is complicated - but users wanted the ācount in only when recordingā - named āPRECOUNTā, so we did ![]()
I know you all know me here⦠and belive or notā¦
although were using Metro + Preroll / song basis - where required - the METRO section āCount In / Precountā caused me confusion beforeā¦
also somehow failed with reliable toggle - via MIDI track - METRO on/off⦠meanwhile impossible to MUTE/unMUTE metro as there is no such button and also no AutomationTrackLink is available for METRO
When found @SDF 's post, did my best to understand his exact problem and found out, with METRO+PreRoll+PreCount active there is a new combination that might be practical in some cases:
ā1-2-3-4 start then autoquietMETROā.
I agree @musicullum that is complicated, but seems to be complicated me as well from a different point of view ![]()
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I were thinking a while⦠save and slice the āSteinbergā AudioClick sound and put it into a GrooveAgent āpresetā (have AudioClick sound completely the same for the complete set, complete project)⦠but was a bit shy for that āpiracyā. Meanwhile that solution would help me creating custom beats (current VSTLive-METRO with 7/8 high tempo is a killer, in Cubase I construct the ābeat typeā in such cases, but of course that can only to be exported into VL as a bounced audiofile).
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It will be great to have a precount option in record and in play.
Automation ā Metro ā Volume. Yes, there is no mute, but with volume you can do the same.
Really want to mute Metro? Route it to Group and then mute Group using automation.
If @SDF wants to use four ticks like drummers do before some songs (not all), then yes, it would be nice to have a PRECOUNT state saved for each song. Everything else seems working as designed.
For playback you use PREROLL and PRECOUNT.
For recording you use COUNT IN and PRECOUNT.
The problem is only one - PRECOUNT state isnāt saved.
No, you canāt!
think on it from an other aspect. As soon as automating volume, that gets āhardcodedā, however METRO volume needs slightly adjustments at soundcheck.
Rather listening it at Outro slowdowns then adding an extra group that is taking one more attention just for mute something ![]()
no no. if talking about METRO then my brain expects the MUTE there ![]()
Yes. Too much is too much. Itās about channels ![]()
I just tried to find a workaround for you.
I appreciate @ArthurNeeman and I knew and understood it immediately ![]()
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So I downloaded 3.0.46. Now Iām really confused. I canāt get an audible precount in record or play. At least in v3.0.45 and prior I could still turn on metronome and precount (even though it wouldnāt) save, it still worked. It gave me an audible precount and turned off when the back track started. Can someone please explain what I am missing or better yet am I the only musician that expects to have an audible precount so that everyone starts on the same beat and correct tempo???
Yes, there is something wrong happened to the precount functionality. Iām sure they will fix it ASAP.
Yes, sorry, weāre re-working metronome altogether.


