Warning when trying to print parts in concert pitch

Dorico
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The “Transposing Score” button in Sibelius affects either the score or the part that is open at the time. If you turn off “Transposing Score” while the part is open (or accidentally press the hotkey toggle for this when the part is open), you end up with that part in concert pitch, and no warning when you go to print it.

If the score is accidentally printed in concert pitch, it’s not necessarily the end of the world (as long as it is indicated as such on the score). I think the warning for the parts is sufficient. Ideally people should be proofing the score prior to hitting the print button anyway. Maybe a “Score in C” or “Transposed Score” indication can be added as a token and put in the master page for the first score page, and that might obviate the need for a warning for the score.

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a “Score in C” or “Transposed Score” indication

It is an excellent idea!

Currently, Dorico shows the token {@layoutName@} only on parts.

I added it this token in the default score layout master page.
However, I could not find the token for pitch status.

It would be great if Dorico the token {@layoutName@} also indicate the pitch status for Score.

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I have to respectfully disagree.
If I understand this correctly, instead of Dorico warning me, you suggest that I put some text onto the first page of the score that will be visible when printed?
That can’t be the right solution…

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mducharme may not want to see a warning message.
I prefer to see both of the warning message and the “Score (in C)” indication.

The information about the pitch in the score is necessary for atonal music though one can know it by inspecting the score.

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The best suggestion above, from a user viewpoint, is a warning for both scores and parts about to be printed in concert pitch, with a “do not show this in the future” for each. That makes everyone on every side of the debate happy.

I have no idea whether or not that would pose a huge programming issue, but if it’s reasonably doable, it makes everyone happy and inconveniences no one.

I really hope the dev team will consider it.

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If it’s of use to echo sentiments already stated, I’d have to throw my lot in with the “warnings for both parts and scores” crowd. I’m much more likely to accidentally print the score in C over the parts, since I only ever change the transposition while composing for quick and easy chord or line recognition (so basically exclusively in the score; by the time I open the parts, I’m literally only making engraving edits). Making it a warning that can be turned off seems like it should be a happy compromise.

As for this:

This is actually not a bad suggestion at all. Conductors increasingly want this indicated on the first page of the score, as mducharme describes it. And as much as the traditionalist in me would like to push back against this notion (I mean… I say if nothing is indicated, it should be assumed to be a transposing score), it is very much standard practice in more and more circles, and after doing some conducting myself, I’ve reluctantly decided it best to jump on the bandwagon.