Wavelab 12 ARA in Cubase 12?

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Does the ARA 2 integration of Wavelab 12 work in Cubase 12 or does it require Cubase 13?

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Cubase 13 is needed because Cubase 12 does not “see” the WaveLab ARA plugin.

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This is highly disappointing! There’s a lot of users out there that like their Cubase 12 and definitely won’t buy Wavelab 12 unless the ARA 2 integration runs in the “DAW of their like”. I know that it’s Steiberg’s policy to only supply updates to the current versions of their products but in this case it definitely needs a final Cubase 12 update! Otherwise you’ll create a storm of really unhappy Cubase 12 users that would be ready to buy Wavelab 12 if the ARA integration worked…

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Note that this is independent of WaveLab. WaveLab ARA can be used by any DAW that accepts ARA plugins.

It’s also worth mentioning that ARA is a relatively new technology, and I believe only the latest DAW updates include ARA bug fixes.

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PG, can you please cross-check that with your colleagues from the Cubase team? Cubase 12 was praised for its ARA 2 support and indeed works flawlessly under ARA2 with Melodyne! I can’t believe that Wavelab 12 as a Steinberg product doesn’t work in a Steinberg DAW that officially supports ARA 2!

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This is outside my domain. Please ask on the Cubase forum maybe.

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Hi PG1,

Cubase 13 Pro here. But Wavelab Elements 12 does not show up in the Menu, Audio/Extensions. Something wrong, or do I need Wavelab Pro for this?

thx

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WaveLab ARA only comes with WaveLab Pro.

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Having Melodyne in WL is a big plus. Thanks, PG.

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Thanks for the confirmation

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Assuming you use Wavelab 12 and Cubase 13, both full versions, what is the differences/advantages/disadvantages of ARA as opposed to using the Cubase function “Edit In Wavelab?”

  1. Obviously speed when opening.
    What else?

Thank you.

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• No need to bother with releasing audio driver and activating it WaveLab, and reciprocally.
• You can benefit from the audio analysis tools and spectrum visualizations, right in place. Even if you don’t modify the audio.

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Thanks for the reply.

To jog your memory a bit, when Steinberg released Cubase SX, they dumped the Cubase-Wavelab integration. Iirc, I was on Wavelab4 at the time.

(integration meaning double click on a sample part in Cubase and Wavelab opens, make edits in Wavelab, Close Wavelab and edits are reflected in Cubase.)

Steinberg brought the integration back around C9 or 9.5 with “Edit in Wavelab” feature however I don’t think it was quite as streamlined like prior to Cubase SX.

Regardless I’m happy to upgrade from WL11 to 12 and use ARA, but honestly I could not understand many differences.

Do you happen to know the reason Steinberg dumped it? I was thinking it had partly to do with the feature introduction of multiple undo’s with SX, but that may be just a guess?

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Not 100% sure, but I think you are right.

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Excellent! Thanks.